NLHE Midstakes HU Hand History Review (part 1)
Posted by Jonas Smailys
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Did you play any HU before?
Been playing for over 2 years now. I don't think the answer makes any difference here so really what are you trying to say/ask?
He probably didn't like the video. :) What % of your volume is HU?
I play HU and this is some extremely solid content
Id guess it's slightly less than 1/4th or even 1/5th. I probably have like ~300k HU hands lifetime. Gonna check it later.
On Stars in the last 900k hands (since January the 1st 2012) a certain datamining site has only 5k hands of you HU, which is close to 0.5%. I guess you must have played those 300k HU hands on a different site?
Haha, that's just impossible. This year alone I've got slightly less than 40k HU hands and pretty sure at least half of it was on stars. Sadly I couldn't find any hands from last year but IIRC it was a bit smthng like ~100-150k hands.
Also if it only has 900k hands since January 1st then it's missing like ~500k hands or something.
"...turning poker into a gamble...." great video, but i resent this quote.
about the 22 turned quads hand. i think shoving the river as played is far superior, villain is gonna checkback showdown value too often.
DonoDrapero, most of Jonas's HU action has occured starting tables and playing HU on 6m tables so close to no volume on actual 1 on 1 tables which is why it shows very little volume there.
Hi, its a great video. In the first hand(64s), I did not clearly understand why c/c is better than jamming on the turn. By jamming on the turn, villain has to felt a lot of his range(close to 60%), but I do not think hes going to felt wider than that on the river, given that there should be many bad cards for villain's range on the river. To me, I thought jamming is better.
So, would you explain me that? Thank you
Well it might be that we get it in in a really great shape (tho I'm pretty doubtful of that) if we c/jam but at the same time I have 2 issues with this:
1. This was named in the video. Our range is already fairly weak-ish when we just check and the way I construct my checking range OTF is that I'm counting on various turns to improve different hands that'd be able to make call downs.
2. I'd simply never bluff this way. I don't see great candidates for it and overall I just know I'd never do it. If I'm never bluffing I usually don't fast-play in that spot either.
Thanks Jonas!
Jonas,
I don't understand when you say OTT in 22 hand:
... so you c/r to cca 75-80% pot...
And then - we check the river !? Btw - the plan OTT is excellent...
If Villain was "smart" and good (not saying this player isn't good) in this hand, he had enough SD value to just check back as many draws missed and that will happen most of the times in scenario like this one when we check river (although some of hands that he beats are maybe/probably in our 3-betting range PF - reason more for him to check back).
On the other hand, just cause MANY draws missed he had bluffcatcher for our bluff OTR when we jam with our entire range having really many combos that could c/r turn such as TJs, 9Js type of hands that we decided to flat PRE, 9Ts, 96s, 56s combos w/ FD, bare OEs, B7s ( B-Broadway) etc.
Don't we accomplish way more when jaming river due to our plan OTT (!) than checking hoping that our opponent makes HUGE mistake ?
Thanks
I'm c/raising with the same size with my entire range so it doesn't matter if I check river or not - there's no contradiction here.
Well river is debatable for sure and I don't think there's really any way of solving this - it's so so dependant on villain and in a way that's pretty much impossible to say. I agree that my reasoning does sound quite a bit speculative but I still like it more than the reasoning I could come up for jamming.
The take away from this hand doesn't need to be how to play sets when you flop it and then depending on turn/river cards. The take away can very well be "don't play 100% exploitatively if you don't know the villain one bit".
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