watching your video one question crossed my mind. regarding 79 hand on AA82 fd board (bb vs btn) ... whats your gameplan on the turn when you are holding K and Q high hands against unknown reg ? and whats your plan on different rivers ? i have trouble dealing with this kind of spots mainly because it feels unnatural to x/f turn with K high but at the sime time i think we can expect villain barrel river quite often which is getting us into weird spot and i dont feel confident bluffcatching with these types of hands (K and Q high) although we probably should ? or should we just fold these hands on turn ? i m really confused and any advice would be higly appreciated
Well when it comes to a spot with wide ranges and I'm holding the strongest high card hands the 1st question I'd ask is whether they can win a decent %age at showdown? This is one of the board textures where they'll definetely will. So yeah, in this spot I'd be checking just about every single Kx (except maybe K3dd up to K7dd or smthing) and a lot of my Qx (except the same Q3dd up to Q~8dd). So even though Qx Kx hands are better at bluffing OTT than the ones that I would prioritise (i.e. 56o) I'm still not going to be bluffing them as I don't think the difference between EV of bluffing Kx and EV of bluffing 56o is significant.
I just realised I didn't fully answer your question. Yes, my plan is to c/f all my naked Kx Qx hands. Maybe ocasionally bluff-catch with KT but I'm not sure how good that in reality is.
You decided to make AJ a bluff catcher in the 2nd hand on a bad turn for your range. Given that it checked through, if the river was a safe card (2-5), would you have bet it? I realize this is villain specific, and judging by his play, it seems bluff catching is still the way to go, but do you think it's better to try to squeeze out a little more value against the average villain who might have a lot of Jx or T9 type hands in their range that will give you more money but are likely to just take it to showdown when checked to?
Also, while his line does look really suspicious, do you think this would have been a good spot for him to overbet jam the river given that this board is better for his range and you have very few nutted hands, especially after you check the turn and river?
Regarding the 1st part of your comment - yeah, it's what i'd do. I mean AJ kinda ends up being the top of my range so generally I'll use it as a part of my betting range. I wouldn't call it as much villain dependant as other scenarios may be.
Re the 2nd part - yeah it's a good spot to apply pressure in BTN's shoes. Overbet jam is a bit too much for me though. Just because I have a discounted amount of 7x hands (67 97 87 57 A7) doesn't mean other regs will play all these hands the same way as I do. Also the BTN himself doesn't have that many 7x when u think about it - A7 57 67 are discounted to some extent due to turn action leaving him with 87 97 only?
Regarding the 79 on AA8, don't you think that Villain (if a reg) would cbet most of his air as a bluff? Meaning that, once he checks back, his range is weighted somewhat heavily towards showdown value-hands that are not going to fold vs turn- and riverbets. His calldown frequency will probably even be higher than normal because a lot of your Ax-hands (and occasionally 88) 3bet preflop.
Well no I dont think so. On this board villain's bluffs will be really weak ones pretty much high card hands and backdoor draws which just don't have that much equity ergo he can't cbet a lot of them. Regarding my own range, just because I 3b ATo+ ATs+ doesn't mean I don't have plenty of Ax left. I'm also not bluffing all the hands that are "clear" semi-bluffs like K-high fd just because of how much SDV it has.
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enjoyed the vid , thanks
watching your video one question crossed my mind. regarding 79 hand on AA82 fd board (bb vs btn) ... whats your gameplan on the turn when you are holding K and Q high hands against unknown reg ? and whats your plan on different rivers ? i have trouble dealing with this kind of spots mainly because it feels unnatural to x/f turn with K high but at the sime time i think we can expect villain barrel river quite often which is getting us into weird spot and i dont feel confident bluffcatching with these types of hands (K and Q high) although we probably should ? or should we just fold these hands on turn ? i m really confused and any advice would be higly appreciated
Well when it comes to a spot with wide ranges and I'm holding the strongest high card hands the 1st question I'd ask is whether they can win a decent %age at showdown? This is one of the board textures where they'll definetely will. So yeah, in this spot I'd be checking just about every single Kx (except maybe K3dd up to K7dd or smthing) and a lot of my Qx (except the same Q3dd up to Q~8dd). So even though Qx Kx hands are better at bluffing OTT than the ones that I would prioritise (i.e. 56o) I'm still not going to be bluffing them as I don't think the difference between EV of bluffing Kx and EV of bluffing 56o is significant.
I just realised I didn't fully answer your question. Yes, my plan is to c/f all my naked Kx Qx hands. Maybe ocasionally bluff-catch with KT but I'm not sure how good that in reality is.
You decided to make AJ a bluff catcher in the 2nd hand on a bad turn for your range. Given that it checked through, if the river was a safe card (2-5), would you have bet it? I realize this is villain specific, and judging by his play, it seems bluff catching is still the way to go, but do you think it's better to try to squeeze out a little more value against the average villain who might have a lot of Jx or T9 type hands in their range that will give you more money but are likely to just take it to showdown when checked to?
Also, while his line does look really suspicious, do you think this would have been a good spot for him to overbet jam the river given that this board is better for his range and you have very few nutted hands, especially after you check the turn and river?
Regarding the 1st part of your comment - yeah, it's what i'd do. I mean AJ kinda ends up being the top of my range so generally I'll use it as a part of my betting range. I wouldn't call it as much villain dependant as other scenarios may be.
Re the 2nd part - yeah it's a good spot to apply pressure in BTN's shoes. Overbet jam is a bit too much for me though. Just because I have a discounted amount of 7x hands (67 97 87 57 A7) doesn't mean other regs will play all these hands the same way as I do. Also the BTN himself doesn't have that many 7x when u think about it - A7 57 67 are discounted to some extent due to turn action leaving him with 87 97 only?
What are my options pre and post in this hand :) ?
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/11214064_D92D1786A0
Regarding the 79 on AA8, don't you think that Villain (if a reg) would cbet most of his air as a bluff? Meaning that, once he checks back, his range is weighted somewhat heavily towards showdown value-hands that are not going to fold vs turn- and riverbets. His calldown frequency will probably even be higher than normal because a lot of your Ax-hands (and occasionally 88) 3bet preflop.
Well no I dont think so. On this board villain's bluffs will be really weak ones pretty much high card hands and backdoor draws which just don't have that much equity ergo he can't cbet a lot of them. Regarding my own range, just because I 3b ATo+ ATs+ doesn't mean I don't have plenty of Ax left. I'm also not bluffing all the hands that are "clear" semi-bluffs like K-high fd just because of how much SDV it has.
I am late on this but at 9:50 you say that you might have 57 or 97. Do you 3bet those hands when your opponents are unknown ?
Sometimes, yes. I'm fairly liberal these days with what I 3bet some %age of the time.
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