2-7 Triple Draw: WSOP 2022

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2-7 Triple Draw: WSOP 2022

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POSTED Sep 07, 2022

iteopepe88 uses his performance in the 2-7 WSOP triple draw as a backdrop for teaching general principles of this game that is increasingly being added to mix games.

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SoundSpeed 2 years, 6 months ago

Excellent video! The analysis of the last hand was great! So many concepts were covered and I have a ton of questions.

  1. First hand should we 3bet vs btn all of our 2 card draws to stay balanced?

  2. If there is an open from ep and a 3bet from ep or mp can we have a cold call rng with our 1 card draws or should we always 4bet?

  3. Similar spot at 31:00 where we 4bet a 1 card draw but we had a blocker. Without the blocker do you cold call?
    If we are hu do we auto 4bet all 1 card draws even without a blocker?

  4. 19:50 you said we can 3bet btn vs co with 96 and 97 draws with a blocker. Can we still 3bet without the blockers?

  5. 22:30 if btn raised your xr do you discard the 8?

  6. 35:01 you said mw with an 8732 you draw 2 to 732. If hu do you keep the 8?

  7. 38:30 would it be better for us to lead and get everyone to call hoping btn raises and we can 3bet to get the folds that way we pick up the extra bets?

  8. 46:35 you talk about how opponents rng is weaker since he did not 5bet cap pre. Should he always 5bet cap pre all 1 card draws to stay balanced?

  9. 58:25 after 2nd draw when we catch a 9, or even a t or j, can we raise to get him to break then we pat behind?

During my deep run at the 8 game at golden nugget this summer I had the most success at 2-7td. I think people make a lot of mistakes at this game. But this video showed me I have a ton of leaks.

Thanks!

Iteopepe88 2 years, 6 months ago

1, Yes, SB vs BTN I 3bet all of my 3card draws that I play. Only exception is, when the BTN is a good player, and BB is a weak. Then i want to keep BB in, and then i just flat with everything.

2, It depends I think on the 3bettor. Some player like to 3bet all a lot of 2c draws, against them i prefer a cold 4bet with everything (especially when IP). But against tight conservative players, when UTG opens, UTG1 3bets, and i am SB/BB so OOP, maybe it will be better to flat call with all 1c draws

3, This might be the spot to call :) However here there was a caller, who indicates a 2c draw always. Although his range is quite strong (2LL always, 234-237-248 etc), and OOP i am not pushing too much against Scott Seiver flat calling range. Same against UTG Dylan Linde's range. Yes, 2568 is against his 2c draw range, but his 2c draw is very smooth, and i am not pushing that big of eq. edge. With the blocker I am OK with my 4bet. However later in to the tournament (for example, i have an average stack, 10bigbet, 40players left, 24pays), i would just call, and try to reduce variance...

4, It depends how the CO (and slightly how the blinds play). If the CO opens wider than average for sure we can 3bet. Also probably in tournaments (no rake) i think against a normal/correct opening range is fine to 3bet 9653, 9754, even without a blocker. If the blinds are loose, and like to coldcall 3bets with marginal hands (BB calls takes 3 to 23, bb calls with 368, etc), then despite we are drawing less, multiway our hands goes down in value. We prefer to get it HU/early pat/go to showdown with these rough draws

5, Tough spot, question. Earlier (a few years ago) i was quite conservative and mostly broke here. But i think most players overplays this spot, they dont know what to do with rough hands (lets say 87652, etc), so IP they just 4bet. It depends a lot on the opponents. I think both call/pat, and both call/discard 8 can be fine, depending on the opponent, dynamic, etc.

6, Yes, HU i always keep 87w2, but multiway i almost always draw 2 to 7w2.

7, The idea is good, but the problem is that once we lead, we indicate a pat hand, and BTN won't raise his marginal pat hands, because he doesnt have value. So yes, we can get extra bets against others, but if BTN raise we are not a favourite against his range once we 3bet.

8, This is similar to queestion 2-3. But here, he is IN position, against two opponents who are very likely draw 2 cards. So here, if i am btn and i 3bet something, i am going to 5bet cap with all of my range (3457, and these type of hands are the most likely hands that he doesnt wants to 5bet...but against 2 player, who almost always have a deuce, probably he should be folding that predraw btw. And with a similar hand like mine (~2568, 2368, and even 2456), he is pusing EQ edge/especially in position. And he should not have other type of hands (8654, 8742, etc.). So once he calls i am pretty sure he has those type of hands, maybe 3457, 3467, 3567, 2368, 2568, 2456, etc. Yes, he can still make monster with these hands, but little bit less likely, when he is balanced. But here he isnt, because he almost never has 2LL7 in his range.

9, It depends on a lot on the opponent..How likely is he break? To be honest i think most players doesnt like to break, so overall i am careful in this spot. But some players are overbreaking, and with good blockers we can make a move to raise/try to get villain to break. But have to be very careful, because it's very easy to overdo this in position

SoundSpeed 2 years, 6 months ago

Thank you for taking the time to answer all of my questions! Very helpful. I think 2-7 is the most fun out of the mixed games. I would look forward to 2-7, stud is ok, the other games were meh, and completely dread stud8. Stud8 is getting a little better though :)

Iteopepe88 2 years, 6 months ago

I'am happy to hear that you like Stud8. Hope others like it too :) I'am going to make an in-depth analysis about a single, hand that happened during the PPC final table...

Toothy 2 years, 3 months ago

Really enjoyed the in-depth analysis of these hands. Great format! TY.
Will you be at WSOP '23 ?

Iteopepe88 2 years, 3 months ago

Very likely, although not sure yet... Also not sure about the schedule, don't know if I want to spend ~1,5months in Vegas... But really want to play the 50k$ PPC at least, so might even go there for a few weeks to play that...but will see. Probably will fix my schedule around April regarding the summer

tchan 2 years, 2 months ago

Hello, very big fan of your videos. Would love to discuss hand #6 further, a couple points:
* Isn't it possible he is snowing? He could have started like 34668, caught another pair and then it is correct for him to snow. That is a strong point in favour of patting IP.
* How sure are we that -- if we are him -- breaking a 9 with a good draw underneath is correct after our IP opponent has flatted? IP is a favourite to still be drawing rather than freezing and it is a bit of an equity disaster if OOP breaks against a drawing hand. I'm not sure the implied odds make it for it especially with the bottom end like 98543.

Thank you!

Iteopepe88 2 years, 1 month ago

theoretically you are absolutely correct. He can/should have snows here. However i wouldn't snow his particular combo, so 3468-6. He has a smooth 86 draw, with only one bad blocker (dont know what he discarded 1st draw). But for example let's say he opened 2478-7, it goes 1-1, he gets another 7, (or almost any low card). Since he has a weaker draw, and one more blocker snowing is definately and option for him.

However in this spot i was 100% sure that my opponents never have a snow here, as he was playing before.

I not sure if understand your 2nd question. Probably you mean after the first draw, so at the 2nd draw whether to pat/draw 1? (*but you wrote opponent has flatted, prob you meant checked?). In this case i don't mind a pat with some 98s (all 87xx if they make a 9 should pat, because making a 87 isn't that better, and we can't put multiple bigbets happily later in the hand). All clear 7draws, so 2LL7 i will discard the 9. The hand that you mentioned are the close ones, with 8xxx draws, when we can make 86+.... Guess if he had a pair/blocker then i like a pat little bit more (let's say he started 8643-6, and now after 1-1, he makes 98 and it goes check-check). But it's a kind of a tough spot overall for oop

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