Should you 3bet 1 card draws a lot in single draw vs a looser range?
7:30 you said katz could 3bet jam pat js in that spot. Would smooth pat ts or better want to 3bet non allin?
9:00 if nerdguy had the same hand but his 2 was say a k should he fold?
Same hand should seiver defend 2 card draws vs utg like he did?
17:10 livingston opens a 9762. My understanding is all 9 draws with no straight draw are good to open from any position no matter how rough. Is that true?
Same hand Katz folds 88442. What is the weakest 2 pair we should snow?
24:00 if nerdguy gets called he must draw 1 correct? Would he still draw 1 with a q or j?
29:20 this seems like a way too loose open by nerdguy. A bad j with a 4 card straight draw.
Is bromfmans 3bet standard with the extra 8? Facing utg riase I would have just called and drew 1.
32:30 if scott calls does nerdguy always draw 1?
Same hand does scott have to call all pat tens?
Same hand If he has a smooth t and nerd pats does he have to draw?
33:10 should katz usually 3bet here with premium 1 card draws (if he didn't have 4 spades)?
39:00 can nerdguy snow catch with his pair of 4s? Do we ever snow catch pairs in nl?
I know that is a lot of questions so thank you for taking the time.
Sorry for the late reply, but you had a lot of questions :)
1, Yes, vs a loose opens we should definately 3bet much more 1c draws than against a tighter range
2, Yes, with smooth pat Tens it will be definately better to 3bet to induce (a jam from a hand like weatker pat Ts, or maybe from hands like J9432, J8543, or maybe 94322, 8432L (with a blocker). Obviously if villain calls and it goes pat-1 now despite we have a smooth Ten, we are in a tough spot. But i definately have a 3bet non allin size here too (because i want to 3bet pat 7/8/9, and fullhouse blockers, 33366, or even 4445K and bluff with these).
3, The extra pair have a huge blocking effect. Well not drastically huge, but it makes this hand a clear open. Naked 248xx is a snap fold. But even with 1blocker, 248-4K for example from 6h UTG i am folding. (Even 234-2K, or 237-7K should be a fold normally 6h UTG with normal antes). However if stacks are getting deeper, because of implied odds/playability we can open these hands a little bit more. But normally in tournaments and live CG (when it’s usually between 20-40bb cap) we should be tight EP with 2c draws.
Depends on the opening. Against a minraise 100%, eaasy defend. Against 3x, he should fold his hand, but probably defend others (such as 234, 257, etc). But let’s say utg is a very tight player who 3,5x or 4x. He should even fold 234/237.
5, Yes, i am opening every clean 9draws from every position. So even 9873, 7h UTG we can open.
6, Usually 2pairs are a little bit too weak too snow. Or at least if somebody snows every low 2pair they will be drastically oversnow. But it’s very to defend against, so if we have 2pair and another low card we can probably still snow. So hand like 45-457. I don’t know if i said in this video or in a previous one but in general trips are much better to use as a snow. So if we are thinking what hands to snow,45-45K or 45-44K we shoud definately snow the latest and fold 45-45K. Not sure how it will change if we add another low card instead of a king, so 45-457 compare to 45-44K. But trips with 1 (or 2) low cards are the hands that we want to snow. And it’s better to have lower pair/trips. So 22244 is much better compare to 88899. Despite it seems that with 88899 we block pat hands, but we block those even more with 22244 (because most strong pat hands have a deuce!). And we also block the smooth draws that continues (like 2347, 2458, etc).
7, Yes easy 1card draw for Dzivilesky/TheNerdGuy if he gets a call. Even Q/J he should break, because he can be up against a pat 9/T and be that. So even pat J8743 if i get called when i reshove ~32bb SB vs MP i take 1card.
8, This a perfectly fine open here. Weak jacks should be folded EP in general. But here the structure is different: he is not EP, he is basically MP/hijack. And antes are big. Same amount of (BB) ante than in a 7h game due to the BB ante. Maybe he can open all pat jacks, that makes it close. (Normally i am only opening pat Jacks from CO). But it’s not about the jack here. He has a straight draw with the 8, thats right, but it’s only a gutshot. So J8754 is an easy, good open. J8765 would be much different. I am opening 8754-K even 7h UTG because if of playability, if i had a 2 or a 3 i have a really-really strong hand. Despite the straight draw future playability makes it worth to open.
9, I think the extra blockers makes the difference. It’s a small difference but it’s enough for me. And he is 3betting against hijack here And hijack should open some 2c draw as well, and a lot of 1c draw to Tens as well. So i like his 3bet choice with 8743-8, but i would just call with 8743-K.
10, Think u meant does nerdguy squeeze or call? Because with 8732-8 we obviously always draw 1 :)
And same concept applies here. Despite it would suck to get 4bet, but the extra pair makes it a little bit more profitable to squeeze if we have an open and a call
11, It really depends on villain’s range. I don’t really know the GTO answer for this, and we don’t need to know, because nobody (or very few) players play GTO. The smooth pat Tens he has an easy call, so T8432. But a rough, and also unbreakable Ten, suchs as T9875, or T8765 depends on how wide the SB shoves here. Tough spot here with those, especially because the extra ICM….
12, It depends on his draw. If he has T6532 he should pat behind, because he beats almost all other pat Tens, and he has a gutshot. If he has T9432 he should probably take 1, because if villain only shoves pat Tens and never pat Jacks, then we only beat T98xx. But even then it’s tough and it’s a complicated math question.
13, Interesting stack size, because ~29-30bb blind deep BB can have a reshove range, and a 3bet non allin range too. It’s complicated too… :) And also it depends a lot on how the SB plays (not only pre, also how he plays postdraw), and all other factors (like ante size, ICM, etc). But yeah, a premium 1c draw especially with a blocker (but even without), so even 2347x i think should 3bet here.
14, First i thought your question doesnt make sense, but actually you made a good point. In general he should snow catch, c-call here with a T or J here. But 9542-4 is probably a better call than 9542-J, because he doesnt block any value hands. But if he calls with every pair he will be massively overcall and oversnowcatch. Not sure what pairs/how many to snowcatch here oop, in this 1:pat spot.
He can also sometimes check strong hands to craise, so he protects his checking range a little bit by that. Probably not with his hand, although 95432 might be good enough to craise for value. But if i have 2347x, sometimes we should check even if we a hit 5/6/8 to mix. Obviously we check-raise with this.
Also his hand, so this 9542-4 can also played even as a craise river. The frequency, that’s the important question and a tough one. But i think he can call-fold-shove. (Mostly obviously folding!)
Thank you for taking the time to give great answers to all of my questions! Your coaching has kept me motivated to keep getting better at mixed games and keep taking shots.
#10. Yes does nerdguy squeeze or call. I messed up the question on that one :)
#14. You did talk in the video about nerdguy leading. I know leading is common in 2-7td but is leading into pre draw raiser a thing we do in 2-7sd as well? Thinking of big bet poker like nlh where it is so standard to check to the raiser.
2-7nl singledraw is completely different than limit holdem/nlhe. Checking to the raiser, or checking blind in any spot will give up a lot of value. Even if we are BB vs MP, we defend, and 2-pat, we shouldn't check blind. There is basically no spot in 2-7NL SD where we should check every time. (Same for 2-7 TD when we are at the river! If it's 1-pat, we should a betting range OOP!)
Regarding your initial answer to #14 and the idea that '9542-4 is probably a better call than 9542-J' wouldn't 9542-J be better as it 'unlocks' his snows, ie his pairs? So we would rather make the convential bluffcatch with the J/T low. This is in line with your discussion regarding Yuri's call wJT975 @43:45
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Should you 3bet 1 card draws a lot in single draw vs a looser range?
7:30 you said katz could 3bet jam pat js in that spot. Would smooth pat ts or better want to 3bet non allin?
9:00 if nerdguy had the same hand but his 2 was say a k should he fold?
Same hand should seiver defend 2 card draws vs utg like he did?
17:10 livingston opens a 9762. My understanding is all 9 draws with no straight draw are good to open from any position no matter how rough. Is that true?
Same hand Katz folds 88442. What is the weakest 2 pair we should snow?
24:00 if nerdguy gets called he must draw 1 correct? Would he still draw 1 with a q or j?
29:20 this seems like a way too loose open by nerdguy. A bad j with a 4 card straight draw.
Is bromfmans 3bet standard with the extra 8? Facing utg riase I would have just called and drew 1.
32:30 if scott calls does nerdguy always draw 1?
Same hand does scott have to call all pat tens?
Same hand If he has a smooth t and nerd pats does he have to draw?
33:10 should katz usually 3bet here with premium 1 card draws (if he didn't have 4 spades)?
39:00 can nerdguy snow catch with his pair of 4s? Do we ever snow catch pairs in nl?
I know that is a lot of questions so thank you for taking the time.
Sorry for the late reply, but you had a lot of questions :)
1, Yes, vs a loose opens we should definately 3bet much more 1c draws than against a tighter range
2, Yes, with smooth pat Tens it will be definately better to 3bet to induce (a jam from a hand like weatker pat Ts, or maybe from hands like J9432, J8543, or maybe 94322, 8432L (with a blocker). Obviously if villain calls and it goes pat-1 now despite we have a smooth Ten, we are in a tough spot. But i definately have a 3bet non allin size here too (because i want to 3bet pat 7/8/9, and fullhouse blockers, 33366, or even 4445K and bluff with these).
3, The extra pair have a huge blocking effect. Well not drastically huge, but it makes this hand a clear open. Naked 248xx is a snap fold. But even with 1blocker, 248-4K for example from 6h UTG i am folding. (Even 234-2K, or 237-7K should be a fold normally 6h UTG with normal antes). However if stacks are getting deeper, because of implied odds/playability we can open these hands a little bit more. But normally in tournaments and live CG (when it’s usually between 20-40bb cap) we should be tight EP with 2c draws.
5, Yes, i am opening every clean 9draws from every position. So even 9873, 7h UTG we can open.
6, Usually 2pairs are a little bit too weak too snow. Or at least if somebody snows every low 2pair they will be drastically oversnow. But it’s very to defend against, so if we have 2pair and another low card we can probably still snow. So hand like 45-457. I don’t know if i said in this video or in a previous one but in general trips are much better to use as a snow. So if we are thinking what hands to snow,45-45K or 45-44K we shoud definately snow the latest and fold 45-45K. Not sure how it will change if we add another low card instead of a king, so 45-457 compare to 45-44K. But trips with 1 (or 2) low cards are the hands that we want to snow. And it’s better to have lower pair/trips. So 22244 is much better compare to 88899. Despite it seems that with 88899 we block pat hands, but we block those even more with 22244 (because most strong pat hands have a deuce!). And we also block the smooth draws that continues (like 2347, 2458, etc).
7, Yes easy 1card draw for Dzivilesky/TheNerdGuy if he gets a call. Even Q/J he should break, because he can be up against a pat 9/T and be that. So even pat J8743 if i get called when i reshove ~32bb SB vs MP i take 1card.
8, This a perfectly fine open here. Weak jacks should be folded EP in general. But here the structure is different: he is not EP, he is basically MP/hijack. And antes are big. Same amount of (BB) ante than in a 7h game due to the BB ante. Maybe he can open all pat jacks, that makes it close. (Normally i am only opening pat Jacks from CO). But it’s not about the jack here. He has a straight draw with the 8, thats right, but it’s only a gutshot. So J8754 is an easy, good open. J8765 would be much different. I am opening 8754-K even 7h UTG because if of playability, if i had a 2 or a 3 i have a really-really strong hand. Despite the straight draw future playability makes it worth to open.
9, I think the extra blockers makes the difference. It’s a small difference but it’s enough for me. And he is 3betting against hijack here And hijack should open some 2c draw as well, and a lot of 1c draw to Tens as well. So i like his 3bet choice with 8743-8, but i would just call with 8743-K.
10, Think u meant does nerdguy squeeze or call? Because with 8732-8 we obviously always draw 1 :)
And same concept applies here. Despite it would suck to get 4bet, but the extra pair makes it a little bit more profitable to squeeze if we have an open and a call
11, It really depends on villain’s range. I don’t really know the GTO answer for this, and we don’t need to know, because nobody (or very few) players play GTO. The smooth pat Tens he has an easy call, so T8432. But a rough, and also unbreakable Ten, suchs as T9875, or T8765 depends on how wide the SB shoves here. Tough spot here with those, especially because the extra ICM….
12, It depends on his draw. If he has T6532 he should pat behind, because he beats almost all other pat Tens, and he has a gutshot. If he has T9432 he should probably take 1, because if villain only shoves pat Tens and never pat Jacks, then we only beat T98xx. But even then it’s tough and it’s a complicated math question.
13, Interesting stack size, because ~29-30bb blind deep BB can have a reshove range, and a 3bet non allin range too. It’s complicated too… :) And also it depends a lot on how the SB plays (not only pre, also how he plays postdraw), and all other factors (like ante size, ICM, etc). But yeah, a premium 1c draw especially with a blocker (but even without), so even 2347x i think should 3bet here.
14, First i thought your question doesnt make sense, but actually you made a good point. In general he should snow catch, c-call here with a T or J here. But 9542-4 is probably a better call than 9542-J, because he doesnt block any value hands. But if he calls with every pair he will be massively overcall and oversnowcatch. Not sure what pairs/how many to snowcatch here oop, in this 1:pat spot.
He can also sometimes check strong hands to craise, so he protects his checking range a little bit by that. Probably not with his hand, although 95432 might be good enough to craise for value. But if i have 2347x, sometimes we should check even if we a hit 5/6/8 to mix. Obviously we check-raise with this.
Also his hand, so this 9542-4 can also played even as a craise river. The frequency, that’s the important question and a tough one. But i think he can call-fold-shove. (Mostly obviously folding!)
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Thank you for taking the time to give great answers to all of my questions! Your coaching has kept me motivated to keep getting better at mixed games and keep taking shots.
#10. Yes does nerdguy squeeze or call. I messed up the question on that one :)
#14. You did talk in the video about nerdguy leading. I know leading is common in 2-7td but is leading into pre draw raiser a thing we do in 2-7sd as well? Thinking of big bet poker like nlh where it is so standard to check to the raiser.
#14
2-7nl singledraw is completely different than limit holdem/nlhe. Checking to the raiser, or checking blind in any spot will give up a lot of value. Even if we are BB vs MP, we defend, and 2-pat, we shouldn't check blind. There is basically no spot in 2-7NL SD where we should check every time. (Same for 2-7 TD when we are at the river! If it's 1-pat, we should a betting range OOP!)
Regarding your initial answer to #14 and the idea that '9542-4 is probably a better call than 9542-J' wouldn't 9542-J be better as it 'unlocks' his snows, ie his pairs? So we would rather make the convential bluffcatch with the J/T low. This is in line with your discussion regarding Yuri's call wJT975 @43:45
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