2-7 Triple Draw Final Table: RaulGonzalez, Crazy Elior, raidalot, and Luke Schwartz

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2-7 Triple Draw Final Table: RaulGonzalez, Crazy Elior, raidalot, and Luke Schwartz

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POSTED Aug 25, 2020

A star studded final table is on tap today as iteopepe88 breaks down the action from the recently play SCOOP touching on the nuance of the game as well as small but useful exploitations that become apparent when all the hole cards are revealed.

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Lausbub 4 years, 7 months ago

Cool vid! Is 743 a fold in the co as well w/o a extra blocker?
Is there hu content? Whats the worst 2card Hand w/o a 2 we can rfi and def huhu?
85?

Iteopepe88 4 years, 7 months ago

Personally i open 743 from the cutoff but i had a debate about this with a friend of mine. I tried to convinced him to open, he tried to convince me to fold :) None of those were succesfull, i still think we can open this. But it should also depend on your opponents, if you feel uncertain in some spots, and players behind you are very good than you don't lose too much EV by folding.

But if some of them are too tight or you feel that you play better postdraw then i think it will be a mistake to fold.

HU 2-7 triple draw is really a different game. I think my full ring (4max+) is a little bit stronger, but i played still a decent amount of HU.
It also depends on your opponent, but i think i open something like
75+ and 83+
and other hands with some blockers (so 866, 766, 844, etc.)

Still struggle to figure out the exact defending range, so can't give you an exact answer. It also depends heavily of my opponent, game flow how i play. However it should be a little bit tighter that we open.

Lausbub 4 years, 7 months ago

Min 33:30 can you argue a bit why 8765 》765 > 856? 856 can catch 2 3. And a 4 is worth a little bit. Also if 3bet and take 1, whats the driving factors for snowing later, what blockers are best to catch? Great hid btw

Iteopepe88 4 years, 7 months ago

This is a really tricky spot what to with 8765...
I think drawing to 865 is the third best option here. You said that we can catch a 2,3 and have a strong draw. However if we kept the 8765, now we have a made 8765-3 or 8765-2.
In these blind on blind battles we are certainly doing better with marginal pat hands. Also if we make 8765-T we should pat that (and try to overrepresent), but it also depends how the hand was played and when we caught that.

It would be completely different if let's say EP opens and BTN calls. Then even with 8765x we have an easy fold from the BTN. (we might can consider call/take 1, but it just turns our hand faceup, and also we have very bad playability). Deuces should be dead, so even 765; 764; 865 should be folded there multiway (because multiple deuces are very likely out).

I still think that here, BB vs SB the best way is to play as a 8765 1 card draw IP.
Then 765, and third 865.

There might be a small problem, that with 8765 we might oversnow. I have a general rule to only snow if i saw 2 extra good cards to prevent oversnowing. (so let's say i start 8765-7, i discard the 7, and then i catch a 4...now we can snow). With 8765 it's really tempting to snow even with only a 1pair blocker.

I dont think that there is too much difference here what blockrs to use for snow. I think 8765-5 and 8765-8 are close to the same. However in general lower pairs/blockers are better (and trip blockers are better than 2pair, so 8765-66 is a much better snowing candidate then 8765-65).

radtupperware 4 years, 7 months ago

Overall I thought the video was good, but I don't see any reason to continue the footage, like you said.

If you can, I'd vote for seeing how you analyze less standard games whenever possible. Like, it's much easier to analyze a hand that you can put in PPT or troutulator when you need to. But what do you do for like badeucy or badacey or various other games (like you might see in a live mix or on Kings Club's crazy mix or anti-nit mix or whatever)?

Iteopepe88 4 years, 7 months ago

Unfortunately there are no simulations yet for those games, so i just use my own judgement. I try to discuss these new/unique situations with friends and try to get some conclusion by doing that.

I also plan to make a live mix game review, where i focus mostly on these new games (dramaha, badeucey, badacay). I played some live hands just before covid got into our life, and will review those in a powerpoint format.

Hope that will help you and we can discuss those games there.

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