$15/$30 7 Game Leakfinder: Playing Solid in All Games has Benefits
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Very happy to see kings club reviews, especially these days since that's the place I can play mix. :)
What site is this played on? I thought PokerStars was only site offering mixed..
https://kingsclubpkr.com/
Very good video btw!
Hey iteopepe88, coming from a NLHE background, so I'm probably gonna ask some dumb questions on this video... anyway...
@20 min on the left table, how would you structure your calling range here in game? I think I would default just fold this hand if I ended up here (although I think the equity is actually really close, ppt says it's getting about the right price). So I'm just curious what types of hands you're looking to call here? Also, curious if anything changes if you check-called on 4th (which is how I would default also).
I suspect I am probably naturally overfolding vs 1-alpha I think, but I also don't think it's a big deal since none of his hands (maybe if he somehow had like K3 with a heart or something) really benefit that much from the overfold. Thanks!
There are no dumb question :) Feel free to ask anything.
I dont know if i understand your question. You are talking about the 34-A8rb vs 25o stud8 hand right?
*how would you structure your calling range here in game: what street are you talking about? 4th or 5th street? I think both street i am check-calling with my range if i continue. So i am not betting/not checkraising any combo.
If we check-call on 4th street nothing really changes.
Not really sure if i answered your questions, if not ask again with more details about the hand :)
100% agree that I am check-calling everything and never raising. Perhaps more succinctly:
It feels like if we're folding these strong low draws, we will be overfolding vs mdf (we definitely don't have a pair often enough to continue with only pairs vs mdf, and we never have straight draws, etc.). Do we just not care, or should we try to find certain combos of low draws to continue?
This is interesting question for me too, forced to make this comment. As i got it, this question was generally about 3rd street and villain here is not capped. Villain is able to flat many good hands on bring in vs utg open raise (100% actually vs this kind of open - Ace). Thats why i like to check back on 4th street, for me its the best candidate for this.
I don't think we care about this one, regarding over-folding or not. It's hard to explain this, but when we have enough equity we just want to continue because we have equity. Overfolding imo happens when we are at the river, and have a bluffcatcher.
(If you are talking about the hand 34-A8J when opponent bets with 25A board).
Reply to oneway/hero in play: you can't check back this on 4th street, because you are OOP, first to act :) And i don't think that bringis uncapped here. Board is AKKT2, here, the Ace (usually) opens 100%. The bringin needs to defend all split pairs (even 29-2 rainbow), all 3flush (K9-2ddd), maybe some 2card hands (like AQ-2, 2suit).
@21 min on the right table, what do you make of villain's range given the 6th and 7th street bets? What types of combinations do you expect to see here?
My initial reaction was that on 3rd he can have probably almost any two. On 4th he probably just range bets again since any two is ahead of our hand and in good shape vs some rough estimate of hero's 2betting range.
Then on 5th do you think he continues to just put pressure with everything? Still ahead with any two vs that range I wrote above.
On 6th/7th, then, when we both catch an open pair, I actually thought this was surprisingly bad for us when villain bets, so I was curious what you thought. It seems kind of likely to me that villain is checking one-pair type hands here by 7th street... and if he's checking one pair, then his distribution looks like this
which would mean he had like 25% a low and 75% two-pair+. Are you expecting villain to bet his unimproved 1 pair a lot here (seems like bluffing is kind of suicide for those hands, but I guess if I'm advocating a potential fold here maybe not...)?
I guess that's really the question, if he's never betting unimproved one-pair on 6th, we can probably fold right there. If he is betting that sometimes, we probably have to call and then just call on 7th because he'll have a low enough for us to call?
I agree that on 3rd street he has 100% when he opens.
However some players caps their range here, when we raise, because they will reraise with strong hands (like 34-A, 48-Addd, split aces, etc.). So against those players we can exclude the strongest combos. It's imo a really important factor to know how our opponent plays.
I think 4th and 5th streets he remains 100%. He has a range bet on 4th and 5th street.
6th street i still think he is close to 100%. Even with a hand like K4rainbow in the hole (so with K4-A868), vs 3K53 he is still around ~50%. But it depens how many split 3s hero limpraises, so how many trips he has.
At 7th street i think his range is:
-2pair+ (to get value from lower 2pair)
-1pair with a low (to maybe get a fold from weak 2pair, and only a straight scoops him)
However if hero never folds this combo for example so a weak 2pair, then he shouldn't "semi-bluff" with a hand like K4-A868-3, because he is not getting value against anything, he never getting called by worse, but he can get raised by the rare straight.
Yeah, you are right, he is farther ahead RvR than I thought he would be on 6th street.
So, he is probably just betting everything on 6th. Then, in that case, I think I think 7th sucks but it looks like this:
Meaning that his betting range is about 23% stuff we chop with and 77% stuff that scoops us . I guess that gives us about 11.5% equity which is just enough call to call the river bet for a potential chop. Gross, gross spot. But thanks, I understand this better now.
Thanks for the responses iteopepe88 -- appreciate you taking the time to check in on this thread.
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5th street
I don't really see any other hands we may raising here but flushes, so its making impossible to balance here. I would definitely play more straightforward in multiway acting last. But at this point they both have most likely high-end holdings or busted low-end potential, so we don't mind to have them in the pot and to give some hope to their made hands, same time we want to keep in the pot worst flush draws or gutshots.
Good point with Q’s removal, but we are so limited with our type of board, so i would prefer to play our range and flating.
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It’s very interesting, but for me it means that we are snowing everytime vs any D3 hand on btn vs bb (or checking back ui).
Isn’t this oversnowing tho? Is this blocker effect that high here? What’s the point of this super polar bet?
We just shouldn't bet with the intention to take 2 cards, in a 3-2 spots, unimproved in 2-7 triple draw. With our exact hand i don't think we will oversnow, because we had 2pair as a blocker. The blocker effect would be slightly higher if we had 367 with 6T, 6K then with 6T, 7K, but not that big of an increase.
2pair blocker+bad draw is a good candidate to start snowing here imo.
That said, I think it’s pretty clear a strong alternative (and perhaps the favored play here) is to just check and take two.
Sure, i just got it wrong - about "snowing everytime vs any D3". Sorry, translation problems.
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