$100/$200 8 Game: Another Orbit
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@ 37:43 you point out that if the J and T door cards behind you were switched, it should put a bit more pressure on potential split tens. That's some strong analysis. I had never had that thought before. Thank you very much!
@ 38:48 you face a 2-bet and you find that you have 35% equity. As you say, we have immediate odds to call, but you decided to fold. I know you have covered this in the past, but I still struggle with it. We will be forced to call bets as an underdog on future streets, so we will save money by folding the hand on third street. Is this concept specific to stud games? For example, in 27-TD or even limit hold em, we end up having some hands that are dogs across multiple streets, but need to call down as part of a balanced strategy. If you have time, would you briefly elaborate on this point please?
Thank you Iteopepe for another stone gem.
-moose
I think it applies somehow to every game.
For example in limit holdem let's say we face a BTN open in a 100-200$ game. We need to have 22,22% equity to make a breakeven call. Have to call 100$ to win 450$.
Against a 50% BTN opening range with 72o we will have 30% equity, but we are folding that hand correctly. The problem is that we can't realize our equity due to the bad playability of the hand.
So despite we have the right price to continue preflop we fold the weakest hands in limit holdem, just like in this stud8 hand. I hope this answers your question. If not, or if you have additional question about this topic feel free to ask it. I will try to respond, but it's a little bit tough to express my thoughts about this topic
More short handed cash game would be excellent. Especially if you could do Archie or 2-7 single draw limit with the ante on the button. But whatever comes next is welcome. Thanks!
Unfortunately i don't play these games these days. 2-7 single draw limit i only play live, and i play probably like ~5hands of archie on average/month. It's quite rare at the online mix games... But if you have some interesting archie/2-7 single draw limit hands that want to get reviewed i can make a video about those (DM me if you are interested)
i've been watching all your mix videos and they're great. thank you!
I had a question surrounding the 28:38 mark when you mention that you could consider a check raise on 5th or 6th street: when you 3 bet 3rd street against a Q then lead out with double bet when you pair your 8, then theoretically check raise 5th street when you catch the brick 3, is this not turning your hand face up as trips? is check raising here also good because you're less concerned with potentially giving free cards because you block both krakukra's straight & flush outs?
That's a tricky spot.
Usually when 883 checks in that spot QTK will be, because either they have a pair or flushdraw and start (semibluffing). This hand is a little bit different because i cold3bet pre, so my range is stronger, will have some wired pairs and so on.
Even if we turn over our hand slightly in these spots (not talking specifically about this), we can get still at least the same amount of value. Players usually peel to the river and then they maybe make an explotiave fold. But be still won 3 big bets (2bets by check-raising 5th, 1bet on 6th).
And if we are worried that it turns over hand too much we should do that with semibluffs. If you ask my opponent they will certainly agree that i do a lot of spewy stuffs, so i can certainly show up with a bluff. But i get your point, if somebody checkraises in that spot, that's basically a monster..It's really hard to balance it properly and maybe because of that i slightly lean towards to a bet now.
Villain should consider to check back some strong hands, like Q2-QTK, being afriad of the checkraise, etc. I am still suprised by his fold...There are not too many hands that makes sense to peel 4th/fold 5th. Probably that was an exploitve fold, because here players are also not semi-bluffing in my spot agressively. If i 3bet a hand like AJ-8sss, then with AJ-883 i might be scared against QTK and will check. So probably he read my bet still as a very strong one, and maybe fodled a hand like 7sTx-QsTsKx, that he back bd spades on 4th?
great explanation! thanks for your time
Great series. I would like any baduecy, badacey or drawmaha high or 2-7 drawmaha content. I know it is hard to get that but maybe you could review footage you did not play in like you did for wsop 50k or if you have live hand examples you could write them out and review them like you did in your first badugi.video. But I am happy with any mixed game content you provide. Thanks.
Enjoyed this video also! I like this format. For the games I would like to see more of, would be A-5 TD, 2-7 TD, Badugi, Badacey, Badeucey, O8 & LHE!
Thanks
The hand at ca 10.00. How come you find AJT9ss to be an open from the CO, even in a normal game as you say?
Looking at those numbers I would not come up with that hand being an open from the CO.
I mainly opened that hand, since players were playing tighter. So BB would not defend 70%, he will definately fold more. And even if we are equity dog, we will have position with a hand that plays easily postflop(on high board we crush, on low board we giveup). Obviously the latter shouldn't matter that much, but it's still easier to maneuver with AJT9 ace high suit than with QJ65ss despite QJ65ss is better according to PPT raninkings
Ok, I see. Thanks.
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