Button v BB: 72 Flops in Position
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Nice video Mark！！
This video was very helpful, I would be very interested in seeing more
Glad to hear that!
Good stuff; your theory stuff is generally pretty high quality.
P.S. Do you have a source for the set of flops you used? I may go ahead and do some similar work on my own.
Flop subsets can be found on Piosolver's website
https://www.piosolver.com/blogs/news/62725637-choosing-a-subset-of-flops-to-represent-the-whole-game
Nice video! Anywhere to download that excel sheet?
Can I second this? Anywhere to download the excel output so we don't have to run the sim from the beginning?
Great video! I rarely play NLHE so I am curious about the best way to implement the findings into your game. For example, the disparity in actions taken even on just king high boards is immense so I don't think you can say "on king high boards I will C bet 40%" but maybe you can? I was thinking one option would be to group different boards that are close and act accordingly like if Kxx flush draw, Kxx rainbow, K10x, KQx flush draw are all ~10% bet then you can go with a check.
Yes seperating them in just A,K,Q etc. high flops isn't the best way. But with just 72 boards where every board represent a piece of all the 22.100 flops it's tough to have a meaningful sample to catogarise them.
With the way i did it you can see the difference in K high boards that exist. For example K72, K83 dry boards -> High frequency small size.
Kxx broadway more polar, less frequent and bigger sizing.
Monotone boards in general low frequency.
IP as the PFR u rarely or never see less than 20% betting frequency. But if you see more than 85% betting 100% of your range shouldn't hurt your EV.
More please!
Please more of them. MR ElusiveMark.
Sincerely,
Martin
Love this vid mark. Would love to see more of this! You could also get into some turn/river play (example in parentheses)
Other spots I’d like to see-
3b pot sb v btn- (we defend and k/a/4 peels or whatever how does the strategy change)
3b pot ep v lp
Makes it nice bc for a recreational with a 9-5 and other stuff In my life I don’t have tons of hours to grind pio. I can appreciate how much time and effort went into making a vid like this! Especially for those of us with the cheaper version of pio. (Me)
Nice content, Mark!
Last week I was trying to understand how could I segregate the flops in different patterns.
Btw, this class was very useful.
Also, it's fun to observe how some boards are counter-intuitive through our eyes.
I'd like to see you turning this into a series.
Nice vid. Thanks for a ton of work in this one. Would be interesting to see similar one on EP vs MP flat caller.
One of the most helpful/best vid in rio history! Thanks
Would definitely like to see more videos like this, very helpful.
fantastic video mark, very informative!
Would like to see how opening from different positions affects this, if there's more cbetting smaller going on because of the stronger IP range
I can make this a series and then this definitely will be a topic to include.
Mark, why do you not have rake in your sims?
Awesome content, looking forward to the next one.
Good point. Will add that in the future (running sims now w/o rake so will be after a few videos)
And thanks for the compliment!
Thanks Mark! Good quality content! Was just wondering, why is the AQQ board being checked at one of the highest frequencies? Compared to say an AJJ board or A1010 board.
ATT and AJJ are probably checked at a very high frequency aswell in PIO. Some factors are that none of your Ax can go for 3 streets and they don't need protection. All the mid-high pairs don't get enough value/ protection to incentivise betting. Also BB is going to have a bunch of Ax and Qx himself.
Exploitive going for a high frequency bet and a small sizing should probably give a similair EV as using a high frequency check and mixing between big and small betting.
Hey Mark. Thanks for putting this video up. SO grateful. incredibly helpful. going to spend a week dissecting this one.
Hi Mark, enjoyed the video.
Was just wondering a couple of things,
@1.51 discussing BB defence and 3bet ranges, 39% and 15-16% respectively.
If we use the weights and break down a 3bet range from the hands left in the SIM, I can only get an 8% 3betting range, unless 3betting some suited hands I'm unaware of from watching your previous videos? Does this mean you're overestimating the strength of the BB flatting range? Or its more important to have stronger hands included in flatting range whilst running simulations?
Whilst working on this topic, i had a larger disparity in BTN/BB equity - closer to 55-45, (SNOWIES ranges - 57-43) therefore altering the outcomes of my simulations. How important do you think this to be?
Thanks
Please make more videos like this in the future
Hi Mark is the excel available on a link or smthn where we could download it ?
why 16.07 is divided by 27 and then by 0.5246? sorry I'm a beginner
16.07 is the EV for the in position player. 27 is the total pot on the flop before any action.
In position has 52,46% equity. This is how you can calculate the equity realization.
awesome video!!
Mark, can I have this excel page please?
Hi Mark, I agree this video is amazing. Would it be possible to share the excel file please?
Mark,
Great video. I assume these are for 100bb stack sizes. Is there any significant differences at depth? Say 200bb to 300bb?
Thanks.
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