Playing $25/$50 Live: Limps, Donks, Straddles and Other Live Wackiness
Posted by Hunter Cichy
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I can just ignore it, but I do not see the point of most of a live poker video being the solver analysis of a single hand. It seems fine to bring in solver issues, but the exact analysis does not seem so important when people are playing so far from GTO.
Excellent video! Great info for those of us who don't deal with straddles that often. You analyze things well and i wouldn't change your pace.
To make sure I understand, when facing a later position straddle we can develop a limp strat from any position even when not in one of the blinds?
9:55 there is a utg straddle. Do you ever have a limping rng as first in in those spots or is it treated like a more normal 2 blind hand and you always rfi?
14:45 you mention dave folding kto in the bb vs btn straddle. I understand the price is excellent, but now that you have to act 2nd preflop should we be tightening up our bb rng here?
35:20 As someone whoplays a lot of tourneys, the fear of the jam is real :) I do understand going more linear in the limp 3bet line and including suited connectors but even playing deep dealing with a 4bet or even a call when oop deep vs a player like don who you said is good seems to make eq realization a problem. Practically speaking, it seems like an open raise or limp call may keep the pot smaller and the spr deeper and make things easier. Plus we lose less in these oop spots where our ev is naturally lower especially vs good players.
It's much easier for don to 3bet with suited connectors and deal with a 4bet being ip.
Looking forward to the next vid!
Facing a late position straddle, Monker will always use a limping strategy from the blinds at some frequency. Facing a limp from the blinds, Monker will use an over-limping strategy at some frequency. Facing a late position straddle, Monker will rarely use an open-limping strategy outside the blinds in NLH. Facing a late position straddle, Monker will frequently use an open-limping strategy outside the blinds in PLO. This isn't immediately obvious because the default settings in Monker won't allow over-limping due to the exponential RAM requirements of 4-way pots.
Facing a UTG straddle, I don't have an open-limping range. I decrease my RFI frequency slightly because I'm facing three blinds instead of two.
14:45 | The optimal limping range is much wider than you think. Many offsuit Broadways, AXo, and suited triple gappers are pure limps even full-ring. They are insulated from aggressive isolation raises by a hyper-aggressive limp-raising range.
35:20 | In practice, my SB vs BB limp-raising range is even wider than that. Literally, nobody in live cash -- all the way up to $25/$50 NL -- is 4-betting the limp-raise enough because 95% of the player pool isn't limp-raising enough. So, if I run a preflop sim with a normal BB isolation range locked and a BB 4-bet vs limp-raise frequency locked at only 4%, Monker starts limp-raising a huge range.
Thank you for the thorough reply. Very helpful stuff!
8:30 On the AK3dd-Jhh-7h board where the guy shoves the river for 2x pot are you only calling flushes there? Range seems pretty protected where KJ does look like some what of an easy fold.
Hunter Cichy 22min you talk about if the limper doesn't have traps then you can ISO anything that is playable. How wide are we talking about? Vs a limper and you are in the CO, would you just ISO the position before your current position? So From the CO you ISO with hands you would raise from the HJ? From the HJ ISo with hands you would raise from LJ?
In your 88 hand you see the KJs not limp + raise all in vs your min raise, so if they are limp calling these KJs QJs ATo etc hands and not playing them as limp raises but limp calls how wide are you going?
For this chart the 100% would be pure ISO raises and the 50% ones will be light ISO that can mix over limp or ISO? Can you share some type of chart you would iso vs 1 limper, vs 2 limpers, vs 3 limpers? Or give me a rough % of hands you would ISO with? The 100% range is about 15% of hands.
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