Hi G G, no. That stat shows how much he folds on the river when the pot is less than 6bbs or something like that. It is to know how much he battles the small pots.
sup Juan , why don't you use the 2bet&fold stat ? , i know that hud and i use it too and i was wondering why you don't have that stat , also do you mind sharing the BXB pop up :)
I had that stat, but I don’t find it very useful, people 3bet flops with low frequencies, so is a stat that doesn’t tell me too much. I prefer to combine the c/r stat with the WWSF/W$SD to see against which profile I’m against. If its a guy with 43 wwsf I expect a very straight forward and polarized range, and as it goes up I expect more merged ranges.
About the popup, sure, but I’m on vacation now so you will have to wait a week hehe.
Hi zekonja , as I said, people with low WWSF is going to play very straightforward and polarized, so I'm usually going to hero fold a lot on the turn hands like TPTK given they are usually going to have bluffs with very low freq and their value smashes us. Tougher players (higher wwsf) are going to include bluffs more often, and they might include top pairs, middle pairs and bottom pairs in their c/r range depeding on boards, so you have to call them much more often with weaker hands. For example, against this type of players you are usually calling even as weak as a 3rd pair against a c/r+turn bet if the bord has enough potential draws. Hope this answer your question!
hey juan, great vid as usual :)
in 30:00 w/ the AQo you said that you don't like to 3bet this hand as a bluff. but why this hand
is a bluff?
AQo have 54% equity vs his remaining 18% and you block alot of his 4bet range, so he probably 4bet less then 10% in this spot because of the blockers for value and bluffs.
please help me understand this spot better. thanks!
Hi galgalta, thank you!
I didn’t want to say that it was a 3b bluff, that was a bad expression. What wanted to say is that I don’t think AQo is a mandatory 100% 3b, and against profiles like this one, I like to mix some Calls. Another situation like this one where I like to call AQo BBvsBU is when I’m deeper, like 130bbs+, I think as deeper you are, less offsuit hands and more suited hands you want to have in your range!
P.d: 3b 100% of AQo is perfectly fine.
I really liked this format, its very interesting to hear how you interpret HUD stats. I havent seen any other coaches cover the subject in a video, nice idea. Is your HUD available for purchase or did you make it yourself?
Hi Juan,
i think it was by far your best video considering it's not a common format for rio's coaches in general and i appreciate it a lot !
Although i have to say that unless you are battling 3 handed reg games a lot your hud may become blurry on some spots imo
Thank you!!
What are you trying ti say that the hud become blurry? Not getting it hehe.
It is very important to know when and how to use the stats. Usually I just use the hud as a radiography of my oponent, and figure how he understands poker, so that can helps me to take small deviations to get a bigger EV. I’m not a big fan of take huge exploits unless I have a huge sample on my oponent and he has a very big leak.
I mean that some of the stats won't be meaningful even having 5k hands on villain and may lead to mistakes or overadjusting to our opponent...but you answered very well .
I think that is educa poker's hud, correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it leans towards the explotative play.
zache86 it is mostly Educa's hud, yep, but I don't have Mestre's approach haha. Even if you don't have a max exploit strat, the hud might be very useful. I think the best way to go is to have a mix between balance and exploitation.
AQo no matter the combo is a pure call in the simualation I did.
BTN: Dark meaning 50% freq.
BB: Dark meaning 10% freq.
Ranges might not be what is used but probably will do the job for what we are trying to figure out.
99, 88 100% call seems weird but villain was very nitty with his 3b freqs anyway. It´s a mistake I did when creating the sim but it shouldn´t matter too much I guess.
Given the action on the flop and the 6c as a specific turn club and BB following up with a small bet (I used 33%), the BTN´s optimal strategy looks like this:
As we can see AQ gets called 100%.
The EV difference between raising and calling is not negligible:
I nodelocked BTN strategy a bit on the turn: Raising his strong Q on the turn:
I haven´t looked deeper into how the BB can exactly play vs this but what I spotted is that BB betting freq. on river goes up on the river if you just call turn (thinner value bets and more bluffs).
What´s the most interesting one is that BB now starts to 3b you a ton once you raise:
Left is optimal // right is nodelocked
Hm it´s tough to see details:
Optimal 7.51%r // 43%c // 49.5%f
Nodelocked: 29.0%r // 19.0%c // 51.9%f
Nice!
If solver says its close between call and raise, its good enough for me. I think many many people is not going to balance their bet sizings well in this kind of spots, its like naturaly they bet big with the strong part of the range and small with the medium-weak part of the range, also it's very difficult too see people bluff 3betting here. If we take this things in consideration I think de EV of raising AQ here is going to be much higher than in a sim, and I still like raising here against most weak regs!
Your HUD actually convinced me to change to PT4 after a lifetime of HM2 use, impressive!
I have a few questions about PT4 terminology. After extensive googling I'm still a bit confused.
Is it how often one 5bets+ after 3beting an EP open?
You also have a stat called "Steal Turn" on your fourth row, is that a combination of river probe and turn float? (that is what google translate told me after reading a spanish forum xD)
No! EP means EducaPoker which is the site that made the hud haha. That is just a preflop 5bet stat.
Steal turn is “Bet when missed cbet turn” (open raise - call, flop cb - call, turn check - BET)
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cool vid
Thank you! Glad you like it
Hey Juan, what is “fold to river min bet”? What is min bet refering here? Anything less than pot size? Thx.
Hi G G, no. That stat shows how much he folds on the river when the pot is less than 6bbs or something like that. It is to know how much he battles the small pots.
G G oh no, sorry. The one I said is the Fold to river MinPot. The one you asked is how much he folds when he face a 35% or less sizing on the river!
sup Juan , why don't you use the 2bet&fold stat ? , i know that hud and i use it too and i was wondering why you don't have that stat , also do you mind sharing the BXB pop up :)
I had that stat, but I don’t find it very useful, people 3bet flops with low frequencies, so is a stat that doesn’t tell me too much. I prefer to combine the c/r stat with the WWSF/W$SD to see against which profile I’m against. If its a guy with 43 wwsf I expect a very straight forward and polarized range, and as it goes up I expect more merged ranges.
About the popup, sure, but I’m on vacation now so you will have to wait a week hehe.
Hi Juan Pastor
how would you play vs someone that has low wwsf vs someone that has high vs x/r?
ok cool , have a nice trip btw
Hi zekonja , as I said, people with low WWSF is going to play very straightforward and polarized, so I'm usually going to hero fold a lot on the turn hands like TPTK given they are usually going to have bluffs with very low freq and their value smashes us. Tougher players (higher wwsf) are going to include bluffs more often, and they might include top pairs, middle pairs and bottom pairs in their c/r range depeding on boards, so you have to call them much more often with weaker hands. For example, against this type of players you are usually calling even as weak as a 3rd pair against a c/r+turn bet if the bord has enough potential draws. Hope this answer your question!
hey juan, great vid as usual :)
in 30:00 w/ the AQo you said that you don't like to 3bet this hand as a bluff. but why this hand
is a bluff?
AQo have 54% equity vs his remaining 18% and you block alot of his 4bet range, so he probably 4bet less then 10% in this spot because of the blockers for value and bluffs.
please help me understand this spot better. thanks!
Hi galgalta, thank you!
I didn’t want to say that it was a 3b bluff, that was a bad expression. What wanted to say is that I don’t think AQo is a mandatory 100% 3b, and against profiles like this one, I like to mix some Calls. Another situation like this one where I like to call AQo BBvsBU is when I’m deeper, like 130bbs+, I think as deeper you are, less offsuit hands and more suited hands you want to have in your range!
P.d: 3b 100% of AQo is perfectly fine.
I really liked this format, its very interesting to hear how you interpret HUD stats. I havent seen any other coaches cover the subject in a video, nice idea. Is your HUD available for purchase or did you make it yourself?
I will put a link withthe hud tonight so you can get it :)
Hi Juan,
i think it was by far your best video considering it's not a common format for rio's coaches in general and i appreciate it a lot !
Although i have to say that unless you are battling 3 handed reg games a lot your hud may become blurry on some spots imo
Thank you!!
What are you trying ti say that the hud become blurry? Not getting it hehe.
It is very important to know when and how to use the stats. Usually I just use the hud as a radiography of my oponent, and figure how he understands poker, so that can helps me to take small deviations to get a bigger EV. I’m not a big fan of take huge exploits unless I have a huge sample on my oponent and he has a very big leak.
I mean that some of the stats won't be meaningful even having 5k hands on villain and may lead to mistakes or overadjusting to our opponent...but you answered very well .
I think that is educa poker's hud, correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it leans towards the explotative play.
zache86 it is mostly Educa's hud, yep, but I don't have Mestre's approach haha. Even if you don't have a max exploit strat, the hud might be very useful. I think the best way to go is to have a mix between balance and exploitation.
24:32 don´t think a solver raises this hand but not sure
LoveUknow make a sim and let us know ^^
AQo no matter the combo is a pure call in the simualation I did.
BTN: Dark meaning 50% freq.
BB: Dark meaning 10% freq.
Ranges might not be what is used but probably will do the job for what we are trying to figure out.
99, 88 100% call seems weird but villain was very nitty with his 3b freqs anyway. It´s a mistake I did when creating the sim but it shouldn´t matter too much I guess.
Given the action on the flop and the 6c as a specific turn club and BB following up with a small bet (I used 33%), the BTN´s optimal strategy looks like this:
As we can see AQ gets called 100%.
The EV difference between raising and calling is not negligible:
I nodelocked BTN strategy a bit on the turn: Raising his strong Q on the turn:
I haven´t looked deeper into how the BB can exactly play vs this but what I spotted is that BB betting freq. on river goes up on the river if you just call turn (thinner value bets and more bluffs).
What´s the most interesting one is that BB now starts to 3b you a ton once you raise:
Left is optimal // right is nodelocked
Hm it´s tough to see details:
Optimal 7.51%r // 43%c // 49.5%f
Nodelocked: 29.0%r // 19.0%c // 51.9%f
Nice!
If solver says its close between call and raise, its good enough for me. I think many many people is not going to balance their bet sizings well in this kind of spots, its like naturaly they bet big with the strong part of the range and small with the medium-weak part of the range, also it's very difficult too see people bluff 3betting here. If we take this things in consideration I think de EV of raising AQ here is going to be much higher than in a sim, and I still like raising here against most weak regs!
sure. Just felt like giving back a bit. Maybe it helps you:D
Obviously I can´t teach you shit in poker:D but maybe you still gain something from this.
Of course it helps, and really apreciatte the participation/feedback :D!
Did you have a link for that HUD? It was kinda cool even though it looks kind of ridiculous at first glance.
And nice vid, enjoyed it!
Sure!
http://www.mediafire.com/file/aqt10k57g9dp0na/Cash-EducaPast.pt4hud/file
Hi, thanks for a great video señor Pastor.
Your HUD actually convinced me to change to PT4 after a lifetime of HM2 use, impressive!
I have a few questions about PT4 terminology. After extensive googling I'm still a bit confused.
You also have a stat called "Steal Turn" on your fourth row, is that a combination of river probe and turn float? (that is what google translate told me after reading a spanish forum xD)
Looking forward to your next video!
Looks like I messed up the first image, here it is.

No! EP means EducaPoker which is the site that made the hud haha. That is just a preflop 5bet stat.
Steal turn is “Bet when missed cbet turn” (open raise - call, flop cb - call, turn check - BET)
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