HU PLO Hand History Review (part 2)
Posted by Robin Lindqvist
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Do you ever implement a limping strategy preflop? What would be the deciding factors if you did? How would you design a range vs a tough opponent?
Good questions, yes I definitely want to have a limping range preflop especially against opponents like this who tends to have a high 3bet frequency. I also think its a must facing all tougher opponents since edges are getting smaller you have to adjust your game making it as optimal as possible and to do that you have to apply a limping strategy. I would say my standard against a tough player would be to open somewhere around 55-60%, limp 30% and fold the bottom 10-15%. With that said I think its alot more fun playing without limps though so if I can play a match and agree not to do it I prefer that!
I loved your breakdown of hand 1, I was actually thinking of folding there because I find that people are not really capable of folding high flushes as often as they should be in a spot like this. I feel like in game I would have shoved, but given our read on the opponent, I feel like risking 14.6k and change to win 7.8k and change is probably a losing play vs a range that probably have trouble folding unless he is an excellent hand reader, and would realize that you would really never be bluffing except in this rare instance. I dont see him folding high flushes much more than half the time, but i play lower stakes than you, so i could be mislead by playing inferior opponents. Really an interesting hand though where I dont see any option being far superior in terms of profitability. Those kinds of hands are what makes PLO the best game ever created.
Thank you! I really appreciate the input, great to get some discussion going. I think bluffcatching this river definitely is a very viable option also, our range on the river here have a pretty decent portion of flushes/high flushes in it the way this hand played out so I would expect villain to be careful with valuebetting too thin in this spot for sure. So since we block the nutflush we remove a significant part of our opponents valuerange. With that said I dont think its a very good bluffspot for our opponent since like I mentioned our range definitely have a pretty decent portion of flushes in it which he is likely to get called/raised by. So my assumptions was that if he thinks about it, my range of naked nutflushblockers here on the river should be very narrow which should make him have to fold 100% of his range since I so rarely have just the nutflushblocker. I agree with you that you should be careful and consider what type of your player your opponent is and how capale he/she is of folding flushes in a similar spot before making this play because thats what it all comes down to really.
This made me happy; "Those kinds of hands are what makes PLO the best game ever created." :D
and yes, please more on 3 bet pots.Super under-taught aspect imo. Love the vids man!
I enjoyed/agreed with the thought process with all these hands except for hand #2:
1) You heavily block villain's double-barrel bluffing range (QJTx, JT8x).
2) You bet big because you are polarized, so I assume you are really only betting 68xx here. After your flop call, you have little 68xx in your range (K68x, 968x(?)). I agree that the river hits you more than villain, but still doesn't hit you enough to justify bluffing. If I'm villain, I'm never folding a set and find it difficult to fold kings up.
3) I much prefer check/raising as a bluff like you briefly mention since your 68xx would be pretty hidden.
With that being said, this bluff probably helped you get a call in the very next hand. Thanks for the video.
Thank you! And I really appreciate the input.
I agree with most things you are saying about hand 2 for sure, this spot wasnt the best spot to apply this concept but i think leading the river is a very interesting concept which have a lot of room for creativity overall so i dont mind experimenting with it but I definitely agree that there is better time and place to do it than in this hand.
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