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How I Exploit You (Part 1: Raising Flops)

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Phil Galfond

POSTED Feb 13, 2015

Phil Galfond a.k.a. "MrSweets28" starts a new series that focuses on specific moves that he uses regularly as a part of his toolkit. In part 1, Phil focuses on a great way to apply pressure in MTT's: flop raises in a number of different situations.

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BRBing 10 years, 1 month ago

nice video would like to see you cover a video on wide big blind defend and how you play these ranges from the big blind postflop

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback and the idea. This wouldn't be a problem except that it's very broad topic. There aren't any specific concepts that universally apply here, so could you (or anyone else) give me some thoughts on how I should hone in on the situations people would find most valuable?

zsemo 10 years, 1 month ago

Phil, when I peel wide from BB I have problems with GTO-like defend. I'd be happy to see how you play the bottom of your range until the river. Examples, filtered hands would do;)

nittyoldman 10 years, 1 month ago

43:33 "queen is interesting", bc he can never have Qx except maybe AQ, KQ right? also, what rivers would you be barreling? I was thinking it would be pretty good to barrel on 7s & Ts since its so hard for you to have air, not so good to barrel an A or K since you probably would be more likely to call that otf than raise...and im assuming Js & 9s probably get vbet otr

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

Good question.. I'm not sure why I stopped my thoughts there! The Q is interesting because I don't view it as a particularly good card for me to rep, but I pick up some extra equity.

You're right that he won't have a ton of Qx, but on the flop I could still rep hands like A8 and on the turn I no longer can. Also, like you said, the straight/flush turns give me a lot of credibility, but on Q+ I am basically repping 6x.

This turn is one of those spots where we both aren't likely to have much, and in those spots in MTTs, betting until shown that you shouldn't is a nice strategy.

cabocabo 10 years, 1 month ago

Found this very interesting. Do you see anything wrong with implementing this strategy at much shallower stack depths (~15bb), where our check raise costs about 1/3 of our stack?

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

Great question, cabo.

There's nothing wrong necessarily, and it's an excellent way to leverage our (or his) stack - it puts him in a push/fold situation more or less and we don't have to commit our stack in order to do so.

Since I wanted to focus on areas that I think people on MTTs defend against poorly, these short stack situations fell outside of that umbrella for two reasons:

-I'm not a very experienced 15bb player, so I don't have the confidence to point out large leaks in 15bb play
-MTT players seem to react okay from my experience here. Building a shoving range here isn't as difficult as constructing multi-street ranges (starting with a cbet range that is too wide)

prufrock 10 years, 1 month ago

Phil, great video, very interesting and useful take on mtt strategy, should be a fantastic series.

Only thing, I believe it might have been better if you'd filtered the hands a bit and present the 30 most interesting ones. Even so, I feel its enough content to get the general spirit and idea across, and to have us think and experiment on our own, and so I personally would rather see you moving on to different topics rather than coming back with another bunch of hands on the same one. Thanks.

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback, prufrock. I already made the 2nd part of this, but I'll keep in mind filtering the hands down for future parts.

It's tough because I do think there is something to potentially be learned from the smaller spots as well. There were maybe 5-10 hands throughout this that we skipped over because they were too simple, but it took only a few extra minutes of our time and it allowed me to experience the all hands as they came up, which I like for the sake of the video (not to mention my prep time!).

Kbalzara 10 years, 1 month ago

Hey Phil, I'm more of a cash player, but I enjoy MTT-s once in a while, have a lot of respect for your game. But I wanna know this, I see that you raised a lot of flops where you rep little or nothing, for example raising on bb on board AsQs7, you basicly never have set there, and your only value hands are 3 combos of q7s, and A7 and the else is just fd-s and backdoors. you said people don't slowplay enough on that kind of boards. People who understand the ranges do, so they know you hardly ever have value hand there, they can 3 bet flop as a bluff or call and shove the turn if you 2 barell. I think its important to use your raises there where you usally have a lot of value hands, more value hands you have, more bluffs you can pull,not the other way around. Cos if a regular player on let say medium stakes starts to raise flops like that he would have to much bluffs, and on many turns and rivers he would have a really hard situations to deal with(we are talking of a players who aren't top high stakes stars). And today people just dont fold tp like they use to...So I think you just gotta give us better reasons to raise some of flops that you did, beside "people just fold to much, or don't slowplay enough", HUD stats would really help, and that you know your opponents, and how they play, and that you basicly tell us : "I'm doing this, because this is my counter strategy for he's doing that", poker is where you play the man, and the reasons why you do stuff gotta be linked whom your playing with. I think the video would be much more enjoyable and more interesting.
I don't care about playing the general poker players, playing the "population" how you like to say. Play me the man with he's strategy and explain me your thoughts and ideas how to confront him, and counter he's strategy. That's the video I wanna see from you Phil. Show me who, and what kind of player and strategy are you exploting!

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for the questions, Kbalzara.

Due to the nature of MTTs, there are several spots where I'm very much overbluffing and several spots where I'm very much underbluffing. I'm counting on them not to adjust properly, which is why my game gets so unbalanced.

So, I don't disagree with your critiques of my ranges whatsoever, but I don't believe they need to be fixed.

As far as basing plays on specific HUD stats and reads, while I do that occasionally, it's very difficult for me in MTTs because I have no sample size on anyone. I am pretty much flying blind with the exception of some preflop stats, so these really are plays that I make 'against the population'.

The reasons I raised were based on the general reads of the MTT world as well as the stacks/board texture/hands, which I don't believe I can cover much better than I did here. If you want to see more specific adjustments to HUD stats and reads, check out some of my cash PLO videos at higher stakes where I have some real information to adjust to.

Zachary Freeman 10 years, 1 month ago

17:00
Thanks for the video. It's been too long since I've found time to watch one.

I agree that by 3betting all our strongest hands on flop our calling range becomes very susceptible to turn and river bluffs.

That said, I often find myself hesitant to call flop not out of fear of losing but rather fear of losing action. Particularly, on dynamic flops what happens is a) our opponents cr range has less low equity hands as bluffs and more legit draws that won't fold to a 3bet b) more turns and rivers will kill our action vs their inferior value range.

What do you suggest on those spots?

On a more dry board I agree flatting becomes attractive. That said, on dry boards it is nice to be able to combat flop cr's with 3bets as rebluffs instead of having to always react with a call or fold. If we flat most of our top end will have to bluff in form of floats hoping they quit barreling or making an expensive river raise. Its hard to find enough value combos to 3b on dry flops even if we dont split our range but once we stick some traps into our flats, it doesn't allow us to bluff 3bet flop much unless we ignore balance and just try to purely exploit.

I suppose the answer is for both is that if we dont know what their cr ranges look like we should just play a mix strat and approx GTO. But this video is about exploiting and most often we will have reads. So if cr ranges are all high equity draws and inferior value we should be 3betting near 100% with strongest hands. On contrary if we think villain is overbluffing dry boards we can 3bet bluff flops a lot and trap when calling to the point we worry about being re exploited.

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

You can't just ask an easy question, can you, Zach? :)

It's a tough spot, definitely, and I think that staying aggressive with the top of your range works well (probably best) in a vacuum, and it helps us bluff cheaply sometimes.

We are supposed to do whatever has the highest EV. In theory, the fact that fastplaying leaves our other ranges capped should result in people pushing very hard in those spots to the point that it makes slowplaying become as attractive as fastplaying (with some of our range).

I think that people aren't taking enough advantage of capped ranges (especially because if they barrel you, it's for 45% pot), so I think that we probably should fastplay most of our good hands. This is, of course, assuming you can sleep at night knowing how vulnerable your ranges are :)

Now, MTTs are weird because if we all start overbetting (balanced) against capped ranges and calling down light, we've drastically increased our variance - this is a no-no. I'm going to hold off for now on going down this theoretical tunnel because I don't know that we'll ever get out. Point is, it's not nearly as simple as it is in cash games to estimate an equilibrium that makes sense.

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

As an alternative, I kind of like the idea of calling flops and raising turns (especially if we are IP). This allows us to protect a little bit more, and to get extra value pre-river while still allowing them to fire that bigger turn barrel - punishing their bluff ranges a bit more.

When we do this, we are still left capped on the river, but this isn't a huge problem. They will be somewhat polarized at that point, and we'll still have some strong hands that didn't wanna get AI, so it's not as if we give them the ability to 70% pot 2nd pair.

Zachary Freeman 10 years, 1 month ago

37:00 96 on AQ9r IP; On that spot and other spots like that one where you raise TT on QXX I am not seeing the merit so much. I do like the 99 raise on 887hh given all the reasons you mentioned. However going back to the 96 hand. pair of 9 is high enough such that we as you mentioned mostly gain in terms of protection only from 1 overcard hands. Those hands have only ~15% equity which if checked down is 0.15*330=50 chips yet we risk 90. So the benefits of stopping him to bluff us would have to be significant.
Also, for that sizing we dont make any hand with reasonable equity fold so our raise doesnt force any incorrect folds.
Additionally, you mentioned it will be hard to play 96 by calling but I disagree with that. We are IP and we are in a MTT where we are likely going to face small sizings. If he bets 50% pot on turn we will be calling 160 which is only 70 more chips than our flop raise, yet we get to guarantee we see the turn by not re opening. We also face a very similar river spot by raising vs calling because we will often need to check back turn when called. on River our range is very weak the times we check back turn and he will have many profitable bluffs with hands he isn't folding flop with, like JT, j8, T8, KT, and he will have fairly easy value bets with Ax+.

I think the more pure bluff raises that you showed are great adjustments vs their weak and wide cbet range and some of the "multi purpose" rasies like the 99 on 887hh work well, however I felt some of the raises with hands that didnt need as much protection would do best by calling especially since sizings we will face are usually small on subsequent streets.

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

I definitely see your point.

I think we do avoid a decent amount of barrels on turns which give our opponent a draw of some kind. The sizing of the 96 play was pretty much focused on making him fold worse hands that had some equity, and while I'm not in love with the play (I think I said that?) it's cheap enough that I doubt it could be that bad.

I was talking to a friend who played around a bit with pokersnowie, and he said that what struck him most was how it seemed to value bottom pair as a "semibluff" or multi-purpose raising hand. Snowie doesn't spit out a precise reason for it's strategy, but It makes sense that we'd want to hit trips sometimes on those cards with our raising range, plus it gives us some high equity semi-bluffs that we can barrel on draw completing boards.

That said, if I wanted to truly use 96 as a semibluff, I'd have raised larger and bet the turn - just something to think about.

In the TT hand on Qxx, I believe that was the 3-handed pot? If so, I believe there's a lot of merit in preventing overcards from hitting as well as bluffing the 3rd player out of the pot with Qx. With an overpair to 2nd pair, we also get some value occasionally. I think that until people start responding properly (which is no simple thing), plays like this are pretty attractive.

zsemo 10 years, 1 month ago

I love the video! It would also be nice to see:
- how you combat vs. flop cbet raises
- when you don't cbet flop with 2nd pair or worse and bluffcathing or turning your hand into bluff..
- turning weak holdings into bluff

drmt 10 years, 1 month ago
  1. Good video Phil. I been strugling in this area a lot, because I like bluff raising too, but I don't like bluff raising where seems I'm not repping a ton of value hands. But you where still raising kinda spots where you weren't repping a lot and it worked. It seems in shallower stack poker aggression can overtake that anyway and also opponent cbeting ranges are way way too wide. So can you reply me with some reasons why we can raise not repping a ton?

  2. Can you do a series about folding? Because I'm strugling in that area too. Seems I'm hero calling too much. It's not that I'm a calling station, but I think I have a leak in my head which makes me think that my opponents are bluffing too much, so when I'm facing a bet I'm looking for a hands he can bluff in the spot with and finding them too often I think so paying of too often too. So would be nice to see a video series about mediocre to good hands (top pairs, lower two pairs, maybe sets, maybe some second pair type hands) which you folded later on in the hand and give us some reasons and math when we should fold. Would be thankfull too you very much for this type of video! :-)

And also video series about calling 3bets and playing those pots, especially OOP would be very interesting too.

P. S. Don't get lazy and don't make us wait very long for next MTT video, please!!!!! :-P

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

I'll do my best not to put these off (though we'll spread the releases a bit either way).

I have some followup questions for you and anyone else, because I need some help thinking of the best (and easiest) way to attack some of these spots.

Things like the 3bet pots OOP, like folding in general or hero calling - They are huge topics. They are also topics where I'll need to select specific hands rather than show every hand in my DB that fits the criteria. This allows for some serious bias on my part, which is fine, but I like when we can all get a feel for what happens 'generally' in a lot of these spots.

I have no problem finding some of the hands I think are most interesting when calling in 3-bet pots, out of the BB with weak holdings (suggested above), hero folding/hero calling, barrelling. I'm happy to cover anything - I just am having a hard time figuring out how it would truly be a 'concept video' rather than a collection of cherry-picked hands from a given spot.

Maybe that's just how it needs to be though, and that's totally cool with me. I know that we'd still find some interesting stuff.

PepeLePew 10 years, 1 month ago

very cool video concept! Eagerly awaiting further parts in the series. I particularly loved your insight about the significance of raising vs a ~100% range cbet, considering that at that point the cbet becomes no more than an expensive check and we are left to voice the strength of our own range with a raise. In effect, because of SPR and meta factors you voice very clearly, of course people will not see this situation this way and will react differently than when they check and we bet, but I still really like these kinds of atypical insights you always seem to have on the game. I think the general consensus when facing bets on boards where we are rarely nutted, especially dry ones, is to go into bluff catch mode or delay our bluffs. I think this way and I think most regs do as well because it seems intuitive and sensible (Brian Yoon regularly mentions his lack of a raising range on many board textures).

Could you try to clarify the merits of raising (at risk of getting played back at because we "rep" little even though we may have a very balanced range, which only lacks nutted combos) vs playing the usual way with regards to range advantages? You mention this logic in a PLO vs NLHE video as well, with "locked" boards in PLO vs "dry" boards in NL. I'm just always so wary of getting into the "punish your air range by raising" game because I expect people to understand my raise hardly reps more strength than their automatic cbet plus they expect me to call them down a ton to punish barelling, so they just don't believe. Sorry for the semi-wall of text, it's just hard to react concisely to your videos :)

Phil Galfond 10 years, 1 month ago

I particularly loved your insight about the significance of raising vs a ~100% range cbet, considering that at that point the cbet becomes no more than an expensive check and we are left to voice the strength of our own range with a raise.

Thank you! I found that to be the most interesting part of the video as I was talking about it too, so I'm glad you pointed it out :)

I've addressed a couple of questions above about the imbalance in my strategy, and I am throwing range advantages out the window a little bit in these MTT situations.

I haven't experienced people playing back at me very much (at least not nearly enough to make me want to shy away from the prices I'm being laid to bluff in these spots). It sounds like maybe you have?

Or have you not tried it because you expect to and you will feel dumb when it happens? It almost sounds like you could use a little extra push to make (+EV) plays like these because of the vulnerability of the strategy - Just keep in mind that when you are starting with a raise on the flop, you don't need to be extremely value heavy to prevent them from wanting to call, especially if your bluffs have barrel cards and equity. The threat of facing a multi-street barrel situation isn't only emotional - math backs it up. The raiser is supposed to have more bluffs than value hands.

Now, since MTTers love to 3-bet flops rather than go into calldown mode, and those 3-bets are tiny, I'm prepared to start calling those 3-bets and figuring it out from there. There are only so many hands they can have that want to get AI on the flop, so I expect their range to be reasonably bluffy and I expect to pick up some clues along the way so that I can make some good calldowns/rebluffs.

I'm not positive I answered your question, so please clarify if I didn't quite get there.

PepeLePew 10 years, 1 month ago

I come from a cash background before swinging pretty radically into mtt due to relative profitabilities in the fields on offer. I guess moving from studying A TON of range balancing to playing a hyper-exploit style is an acquired habit. I'm getting there more and more but I guess this is one of those spots where I have a mental leak. On the one hand, I've always based my poker on giving people some credit for understanding certain concepts (regs in particular) but as I've found week after week, the selection of regs I fit into that category gets thinner. I don't mean to sound like a jerk when I say this, I'm sure MTTers will understand and even moreso those who dabble on .fr networks. The fact is, on quite a few levels, CG regs are way more solid on a ton of theory compared to MTT regs (this is obviously not the case for the best MTT regs who are as deserving of praise as anyone else).

So on the one hand, I think I have a hard time daring to do certain things. For instance I will delay bluffs rather than raise flops for coherence reasons vs people who cbet 90% like I would against someone with a more balanced range, it's just that I'll fold less flops and raise more turns. That being said, I have often thought about the lower variance route of raising flops and this "believability" or "proper line" concept has always held me back, most likely more than it should. On the other hand, I think I tend to just be RO when I try non standard plays and they fail. Say I raise a flop laying myself a 45% immediate success rate plus some later opportunities to win the hand. If villain folds 60% we're printing money but it doesn't feel that way (and takes a pretty big DB to check non-standard lines). I think I go into the play thinking "this is silly" and when it fails I conclude "well this was silly" even if it very well may have been quite +EV. I guess I just self-diagnosed with this wall of text, but I'd like to know how in your career you've managed to get rid of that mindset. Theory wise anyone knows you're as solid as they come, but your empathy and exploit confidence (including exploit folds) deserve their reputation.

e/ Just an afterthought. There's a third reason. I'm myself a pretty reasonable cbettor because though +ev cbets are very frequently available when I don't make them, I find people make a ton more mistakes vs other lines. Basicly I'm not convinced that EVbet>EVcheck in a lot of spots some (good) big cbettors take. I find that despite this I regularly get raised too thin (if not fully air) by aggro fish as well as some aggro regs on certain boards and have a MASSIVE success with light 3bets (particularly reshoves). Say we raise BTN w/ Ah4s from our 25bb stack and BB peels. Flop comes 6h5s2s, we cbet 40% pot, BB raises with a very very thin value range, reshoving generally works incredibly well even with a weaker holding than the one I chose. I guess my own general tendency to be very tough in these spots makes me a bit paranoid that others will do the same.

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

this is amazing thank you phil. continue this please with the rest of these hands and the pre flop small 3bets (which tourney players do too much)

drmt 10 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for an answer Phil! Didn't find an option to re-reply to your answer above, might be a little leak in this website... :-)

So to clearify I'm voting for videos/video series/concept videos:
*Bluffcathing and hero calling especially turns and rivers;
*Hero folding vs double and tripple barrels;
*Bet sizing! Two street bet sizing, three street betsizing, when to pick which?
Bet sizing on shifting equities boards, etc. Maybe some overbetting. When it's better to size for full stack bets and when it's better to size for smaller/valueish sizing.
*Dealing with the check raises. (Good sample like you mentioned QT hand in this video, so would be interesting to see some hands and videos for spots like that) also rebluffing.
*Video about cbeting (or not cbeting) our mid-range hands like 2nd pairs, 2nd pocket pairs, maybe very weak top pairs, some not our strongest draws and bareling (or not bareling) those all hands on the turns. Would like to know some theory and/or reasons to help us choose how we wanna bet our hands for 3 streets of value or for 2 streets and how to pick which 2 streets will gives us most value or gives our opponent most chance to bluff.
*Video about multi-way pots!! There are much more multi-way pots in MTT's than in 6-Max cash games, so it drasticly affects our equities even with pretty strong hands like mid to strong top pairs, overpairs, lower two pairs and I never saw a good video which would be focused especialy on this topic before :-)
*And as mentioned above video about calling 3bets OOP... As you mentioned you like calling more instead of 4betting with some part of your range, so can you show examples, please? And how you aproach those spots with some strategy, lines and theory.

Kinda a lot of work is waiting for you, huh? :-) Maybe some other coaches can do something from this list if you not going to do them all. But more MTT theory videos are very very welcome in Run It Once! Also it's welcome in any format as you asked above. It's welcome in concept videos and it's welcome in pure Hand History review format video.

tinyelvis58 10 years, 1 month ago

Great video Phil. While this was catered towards MTTs, do you believe these concepts are applicable to cash as well? For example are we ever raising TT on a Q62 in cash or is this more a tourney concept of protection in order to preserve our stack?

1day 10 years, 1 month ago

I really learnt a lot about the spots where you're "clearing up equity" and protecting your hand. I find a lot of the common discussion by MTT regs in these spots is to "let villain continue to bluff with hands we beat, and not raise b/c we could put money in when we're behind" I find that i get in a lot of tough spots following that strategy and I'm almost relieved to hear someone of your skill offer a different perspective.

I definitely enjoy your videos and I look forward to learning more from your MTT perspective.

thanks!

PepeLePew 10 years, 1 month ago

In those equity protection spots, like raising small with 88 on T6r5 for instance, I've wondered about two things. Firstly, I've noticed they're mostly (if not all?) spots where you're not HU to the flop. Do you feel the added benefit of running our hand vs one range instead of two and bluffing out some stronger hands that can't reasonably cold call is the main justification when you do this? Thinning the field is so massively important in limit games, maybe we (and by we I mean myself moreso than say, you) tend to ignore it a bit too much postflop in big bet games. I suppose we're afraid of bloating the pot vs stronger hands or getting reraised, with big bet games having exponential betting contrary to limit? My intuition is you'd be way less inclined to take the same line heads up because protection vs one range is less relevant - less of a factor compared to others, rather. Am I right in assuming this?

The second thing I've wondered is about spots where you would take this line HU. For instance the 99 on 88xhh that you raised in a 3b pot IP, or say you decide to semi-bluff/protect a hand like A5 on a 875r board. How much do you factor position into this decision (ability to control betting/checking on turns/rivers)? It seemed watching the video a massive % of the spots were with you having position on the original bettor (even if OOP vs other players in multiway spots). Also, if you're not bluffing but raising thin/denying equity how do you manage balance? It seems we're kind of never calling certain textures, or only calling much more showdownable hands like top pairs etc. I know it seems silly to talk about balance, I guess what I mean is more... how would you play against this aggressively protective strategy on these low boards? It's not super intuitive what we can do against it, specially OOP. IP it's kind of easy, a guy who always c/r 55 on 883 we just float him a ton with stable equity hands and use favorable runouts. Probably just call our 8x flop & turn if they're inclined to follow their protection on turns. OOP though... well nobody likes being OOP except when that sweet sweet c/r, double c/r, triple c/r is possible :) (I remember in an Espen vid you said people often play more poorly with initiative and this feeds into that I suppose, but only when our holding makes the situation favorable i.e. a small % of the time).

So many questions, sorry for my wall of text habits but I haven't even managed to fit all of them in here :(

drmt 10 years, 1 month ago

1 question kinda out of topic kinda not...

Do we have to be balanced when we are exploiting our opponent (tendency to overcbet wide and weak ranges)?

PepeLePew 10 years, 1 month ago

Exploit creates imbalance so, well no. I'm more wondering about specificly what kind of leak these protection plays create and how we can "combat" opponents who do it. "Combat" isn't really proper as they'll be mostly raising with the best hand and when they're not we're probably not folding anyway. We may be able to abuse their range when they don't raise though, as this tendency removes a lot of decent SDV holdings from their calling range.

szakheim 10 years, 1 month ago

Very enjoyable and informative video. However, I can't help but wonder how much less you get played back at, as opposed to a random player, because of who you are? I know it's impossible to quantify, but I would think it's a significant percentage. I guess the only way to find out through trial and error. I'm looking forward to more of your videos.

sippin_criss 10 years ago

Awesome stuff. I found it helpful that you managed to show restraint on later streets at times and described clearly why you showed that restraint.

KidBunz 10 years ago

Loved the video, really opened my eyes and ive been playing years...can you just tell me what GTO and SPFR refer to, sorry to ask such a simple question as im aware it would be to most.

purediscipline 10 years ago

That Video was freaken amazing. Thanks phil :D
In future videos could you maybe cover these topics?

-peeling 3bets with really weak hands
-can you do a video playing from the sb vs the bb with a limpstrategy?
-can you do a video about how you react to limp strategies
-small blind limp strategy deep
-playing the small blind non-linearly vs a button open

Keep em comming!

Also can you recommend any videos orientated towards beginning in plo for a person who doesn't even know the basics of hand selection?

Douggyfr3sh 10 years ago

Loved the video Phil!

Question- vs. villains who are double barreling very wide on most turns, would it not be a more +EV exploitative play to flat a lot of flop bets to get more value from a turn barrel? Ex. T73 rainbow with 88 vs a cbet. Vs a 90-100% C-bettor who is barreling most turns, we are getting folds very often with a flop raise but when we call villain still has air most of the time on turn when they barrel again.

Emanuel Cardenas 10 years ago

Great video Phil, just a question, there wasn't too much river situations, i see the titlle is raising flops but it also has implications in later streets, wheter we gain equity (backdoors) or not, i am not sure how much your "reads" played into the raising, could you elaborate on that a bit,tyvm

ezynow99 10 years ago

Great video.
On the topic of different video concepts for exploting in MTTs, I would really like to see something regarded to how we can exploit post flop in late game situations. Although there are a few examples of this in this video, the great majority are in very deep situations ( SPR 4>1). As MTTs get to the shallower end do you think there are specific plays to be made post flop ( cbets for example are even more unpolarized) or are we forever doomed to preflop agro wars?
Thanks a lot!!

prot0 9 years, 11 months ago

Really good video. New theory content is always awesome.
38:30 : Don't you think on that c/r river you have to call pretty much always? Imo tourney players don't expect you to raise IP with a flush draw, so might turn everything into a bluff river right?

Thanks.

SwissDollars 9 years, 11 months ago

Awesome video Phil, it really triggered a breakthrough in my MTT understanding, 1000x thanks!

Few questions:
1) How important is position in your decision of raising flops?
2) How do you manage balance on dry flops IP where you would probably not raise nutted combos as fear of losing action and more profitable to let vilain barell ? are you ever raising on a spot like at 36:18 in the video with a set?

flotbiytc 9 years, 5 months ago

Hi Phil! Great video! I realised how someone doing this could crush my game, thus i now realize what not to do and how other people that have watched this video could be thinking. I also am keen on incorporating this in my game... I have a question though:

Since your range is balanced in raising the turn.... for nutted hands i think its obvious... what to do in the turn.. but on hands with draws/ nut draws, what do you do on blank turns... when you for example start with a 25bb stack... so on the turn there are around 15bbs in the pot and you each have around 18bbs behind give or take... also, on bluffs such as bottom pair hands and backdoor hands that blank turn, which type of turns could you still barrel on? (Assuming you are up against experienced players that would proceed on top pair hands/ weak overpair hands despite a raise on the flop)

Eagerly waiting for your reply....

Toothy 5 years, 6 months ago

Really like the rapid fire SINGLE table analysis.

As a live cash/MTT player, I find many of the RIO multi-tables on screen videos to be very hard to follow.

I'd rather see you spend more time on vids like this than spending your time editing them down at all. These are valuable as is.
cheers!

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