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POSTED Dec 06, 2022

Horseofhell launches a new format that illustrates how to efficiently study through hand histories when reviewing a session with real examples from a session played between stakes of $2/$5 and $10/$20.

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SoundSpeed 2 years, 3 months ago

I thought this was a great format with a good mix of deeper study and moving quickly through more basic hands. Definitely looking forward to more of this.

First hand is your preflop call.l of the open more based on the ace being suited? It seems like a weak hand in general.

6:20 should opponent be folding to your flop xr? If he had a single club does that make him want to fold even more since he blocks some of your semi bluffs?

25:45 if we were 100bb eff is calling the flop bet better?

35:07 is he wanting to bet with the kc because it blocks our continue rng or because he can barrel club rivers?

36:50 is cold calling a 3bet a thing in plo?

Thanks!

Horseofhell 2 years, 3 months ago

Thanks!
Yeah pre is a bit wide first hand I should have mentioned. We call A754 and A753 but A743 ends up just mucking so its 1 pip off I'd say. A mistake but not an outrageous one imo.

6:20 Nah still just muck his hand vs even the small raise. We have so much better stuff with even just like a single pair, or like a BDSD like KKT9. Also, having a club increases our call EV here, not decrease it. Sure we unblock a few more semibluffs but when we call with a combo like KKT9 with Kc we end up being able to bluff on flushing runouts. With no club we are basically calling praying IP checks back turn and river or the turn is very good for our hand. That doesn't seem like that great of a spot. KKT9 with no club just ends up folding and KKT9 with a club can call but its close.

I'd say the biggest problem this hand is the fact that he bet at all. You're setting yourself up for failure by
1. Implementing a small sizing on this board and
2. Just using this small sizing to bet hands that you think are too weak to bet bigger (this is my assessment of the situation when I see a hand like this in his betting range)

23:45 Yeah sure at a more 'normal' 100BB 3B pot SPR I'd just call my KKJ combos.

35:07 I'd say the latter. I doubt he blocks too much more of the continuing range if he has Kc vs any other K. It's prob a very small effect. Being able to bluff on clubs is gonna be way bigger EV gain to the hand

36:50 Yeah absolutely, especially once you get deeper. The thing is that this range is ridiculously tight and very specific. The vast majority of the time when you see someone coldcalling (especially at lower stakes) it's just going to be a fish clicking buttons with a hand they think looks nice. Of course if you see a good reg coldcalling 3bets he prob has a reasonable range, but in general when I look back at hand histories and it's someone I don't know that well I just assume the range is whack.

1974blue 2 years, 2 months ago

T7 Top 2 hand...When donking flop and getting raised (most likely to occur when facing AA with NFD) what is the plan?

Horseofhell 2 years, 2 months ago

Just call and fade a club is best here since the SPR is still pretty big. If the SPR was much shorter we'd just go with it but we can still fade some turns at this SPR.

1974blue 2 years, 2 months ago

Just call and fade a club is best here since the SPR is still pretty big. If the SPR was much shorter we'd just go with it but we can still fade some turns at this SPR.

So call flop raise and lead pot/all in on non club turn (maybe exception for board pairing), and check with the intention of folding on club turns?

1974blue 2 years, 2 months ago

AAT9 hand - As far as bet sizing on the flop. Do you see the bet size changing 3 ways vs if HU? If not, why wouldn't it change?

Thoughts on 1/2 pot 3 ways and 2/3 to 3/4 pot HU?

Horseofhell 2 years, 2 months ago

I think as more people enter the hand you're going to be seeing less pot sized bets. Generally the pot sizing for the IP player in 3-bet pots is a size that we use for hands that kind of just want to end the hand and put maximum pressure on the medium strength holding of the OOP player. When there are more players in the hand this becomes a lot more difficult to do since we have 2 ranges that we have to worry about now. Exploitatively when players are not donking enough either betting big is going to become worse as the other ranges are significantly stronger. We generally end up just betting infrequently, quite polar and with a small size.

I don't really change my sizings like that HU and 3 way. Don't think there is much EV to be gained there and you're just needlessly making the game more complex. That said, there isn't anything wrong with it either so if you do decide to go down that route I think it would work out just fine, it's just that I personally don't approach it that way.

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