Very nice video and concept. I guess the reason why the solver do not raise combo with over cards is also related to the possibility to improve to a better hand like two pairs. I hope to see more video like this of spot where we do not make aggression enough.
Thanks! I like the concept of the video as well I'll definitely do more similar stuff.
And yeah I agree that's definitely a part of it. There's always so many different things happening in PLO for combo selection. I find the turn especially to be a really interesting and tough to play street because so many different things come together in fun ways
Your discussion on solvers at 26:49 is absolutely fantastic! It's a common misconception among many players that they fully comprehend the output of solvers, including the rationale behind why every hand is playing a certain way. However, it's important to acknowledge that solvers operate within a game environment where they possess complete knowledge of their opponent's strategy, which is an impossible feat for humans to replicate.
In my opinion, most players fail to consider this crucial distinction. Rather than attempting to grasp the entirety of the solver's outputs, we should focus on utilizing the tool to identify tactics that can be successfully applied against our current opponents and the broader player pool.
in 6max PLO cash, when opening from UTG & MP is there an "optimal" opening size? In NL 6max solvers and AIs chose a smaller open size from early position. However, in real human micro and small stakes games where the player pools are generally passive and the rake is high, I would argue that smaller bets are not necessarily the most effective strategy. The optimal opening size will depend on the specifics of the game and the tendencies of the players at the table. I think its important for Run it Once coach's to teach this to aspiring players. who are still trying to find a solid win rate.
Yeah I agree it's pretty easy to get a dunning-kruger effect when you first start studying solvers. I'm pretty sure this is what ended up causing me to be stuck at micros for a long time despite studying a ton with the solver at that time. We always have to be aware of the situation around us. The easiest example would be like checking to slowplay because you know the solver is slowplaying some of combo X. Well sure, but in real life your might be playing a massive calling station passive fish so slowplaying is a ridiculous mistake.
It might sound stupid, but I'm pretty confident this is a big reason why a bunch of solver studying microstakes grinders are never able to move up. You forget the basics of playing poker when you just tunnel vision on solver outputs so I believe it's important to always very deeply think about why certain things are happening. Only then will you be able to make better decisions in game against real humans.
I agree when we are talking about the undercard turn. On the overcard turn a massive portion of the value is turned top set which checks back flop often. That said, IMO it's easier to learn which stronger hands to check back flop with than it is to correctly find the bluffs in these spots
Excellent video. Very difficult stuff to get down with all the frequencies and combos to look at.
You mentioned at the beginning of the video there has been some good action at hu with some interesting hands. Any chance you could take a few of those hands and analyze them for a futire video?
17:41 shows bare overpairs folding a lot. Does it come down to having, at minimum, a gutter or board pair for an overpair to call?
41:20 when we raise these combos and get called are we basically never firing brick rivers due to our blockers being so bad?
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Very nice video and concept. I guess the reason why the solver do not raise combo with over cards is also related to the possibility to improve to a better hand like two pairs. I hope to see more video like this of spot where we do not make aggression enough.
Thanks! I like the concept of the video as well I'll definitely do more similar stuff.
And yeah I agree that's definitely a part of it. There's always so many different things happening in PLO for combo selection. I find the turn especially to be a really interesting and tough to play street because so many different things come together in fun ways
Your discussion on solvers at 26:49 is absolutely fantastic! It's a common misconception among many players that they fully comprehend the output of solvers, including the rationale behind why every hand is playing a certain way. However, it's important to acknowledge that solvers operate within a game environment where they possess complete knowledge of their opponent's strategy, which is an impossible feat for humans to replicate.
In my opinion, most players fail to consider this crucial distinction. Rather than attempting to grasp the entirety of the solver's outputs, we should focus on utilizing the tool to identify tactics that can be successfully applied against our current opponents and the broader player pool.
in 6max PLO cash, when opening from UTG & MP is there an "optimal" opening size? In NL 6max solvers and AIs chose a smaller open size from early position. However, in real human micro and small stakes games where the player pools are generally passive and the rake is high, I would argue that smaller bets are not necessarily the most effective strategy. The optimal opening size will depend on the specifics of the game and the tendencies of the players at the table. I think its important for Run it Once coach's to teach this to aspiring players. who are still trying to find a solid win rate.
Cheers!
Yeah I agree it's pretty easy to get a dunning-kruger effect when you first start studying solvers. I'm pretty sure this is what ended up causing me to be stuck at micros for a long time despite studying a ton with the solver at that time. We always have to be aware of the situation around us. The easiest example would be like checking to slowplay because you know the solver is slowplaying some of combo X. Well sure, but in real life your might be playing a massive calling station passive fish so slowplaying is a ridiculous mistake.
It might sound stupid, but I'm pretty confident this is a big reason why a bunch of solver studying microstakes grinders are never able to move up. You forget the basics of playing poker when you just tunnel vision on solver outputs so I believe it's important to always very deeply think about why certain things are happening. Only then will you be able to make better decisions in game against real humans.
Haven’t finished the vid but wanna say that you’re a natural teacher, thanks for the vid
thanks man appreciate that!
Feels like it’s hard to have enough value in this line. Easy to forget to check some good hands on the flop, IP with big spr
I agree when we are talking about the undercard turn. On the overcard turn a massive portion of the value is turned top set which checks back flop often. That said, IMO it's easier to learn which stronger hands to check back flop with than it is to correctly find the bluffs in these spots
Excellent video. Very difficult stuff to get down with all the frequencies and combos to look at.
You mentioned at the beginning of the video there has been some good action at hu with some interesting hands. Any chance you could take a few of those hands and analyze them for a futire video?
17:41 shows bare overpairs folding a lot. Does it come down to having, at minimum, a gutter or board pair for an overpair to call?
41:20 when we raise these combos and get called are we basically never firing brick rivers due to our blockers being so bad?
Thanks!
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