Hi! Thanks for the video I enjoyed it!
Im curious about your choice to play short, at least sometimes on GG. from my understanding, playing deep is preferred in a high-rake situation, so is it for you more about the table dynamics of position and how deep the weaker players are? or something else im not considering here?
Glad you enjoyed it!
Someone else asked a similar question a couple videos ago. Check out my response to FeltinDonks under this video! https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/horseofhell-hands-ive-studied-over-the-past-week/
Horseofhell,
On hand number 3, you mention that on turn your hand is literally zero ev in this spot. Do you find in a lot of player pools that hands that are zero ev in the solver are negative ev in practice? I realize that this hand you probably didn't know in real time that this hand was zero ev, but in these types of spots in general? Curious what your thoughts are.
It obviously depends on the exact player you're playing against. It's always super hard to give very general answers in poker but I think in general in the majority of player pools if a hand is 0ev in the solver it's probably best to just fold yeah. Of course you need to be mindful of the exact player as you don't want to start overfolding vs an aggressive opponent but that's somewhat self explanatory.
I think if you were to "know" a spot was zero EV the things you'd most want to think about to decide how to proceed are:
1) What is the skill differential between me and my opponent? If I'm playing against Horseofhell I'll probably want to fold, but if I'm playing against Jeri the sweet old lady in my live game, I'll probably want to call.
2) How difficult will it be for each of us to realize our equity on future streets? Mediocre made hand OOP at 0EV is probably easier to fuck up than nutty draw with no showdown value IP at 0 EV.
I really appreciate the analysis of these more "mundane" hands which really are the majority of decisions we make in a session. The short stack play was really beneficial for tourney play as well.
First hand, so we want a king to block his kk that folds? I wasn't too sure on this part.
Wouldn't having a T be good as we block more of his turned straight draws that continue and we have a future blocker to the straight that we can use to triple?
31:00 what about a turn xr? We have the boat blocker, we have boats in our range, and unblocking hearts would actually be a good thing since we unblock those draws that may have eq on us that will now fold.
43:00 my first thought was to pot flop since it is a wetter board and we wouldn't want to bet very linear. Then I thought that since it's a limped pot b vs b we don't have much of a range advantage, as such we bet smaller. Thoughts?
Hey Horse -- awesome format! Really enjoy this one -- the HH alone plus just the narrative gives me old school vibe haha, it can only be done by a great coach.
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Hi! Thanks for the video I enjoyed it!
Im curious about your choice to play short, at least sometimes on GG. from my understanding, playing deep is preferred in a high-rake situation, so is it for you more about the table dynamics of position and how deep the weaker players are? or something else im not considering here?
Glad you enjoyed it!
Someone else asked a similar question a couple videos ago. Check out my response to FeltinDonks under this video! https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/horseofhell-hands-ive-studied-over-the-past-week/
Horseofhell,
On hand number 3, you mention that on turn your hand is literally zero ev in this spot. Do you find in a lot of player pools that hands that are zero ev in the solver are negative ev in practice? I realize that this hand you probably didn't know in real time that this hand was zero ev, but in these types of spots in general? Curious what your thoughts are.
Thanks Horseofhell.
It obviously depends on the exact player you're playing against. It's always super hard to give very general answers in poker but I think in general in the majority of player pools if a hand is 0ev in the solver it's probably best to just fold yeah. Of course you need to be mindful of the exact player as you don't want to start overfolding vs an aggressive opponent but that's somewhat self explanatory.
I think if you were to "know" a spot was zero EV the things you'd most want to think about to decide how to proceed are:
1) What is the skill differential between me and my opponent? If I'm playing against Horseofhell I'll probably want to fold, but if I'm playing against Jeri the sweet old lady in my live game, I'll probably want to call.
2) How difficult will it be for each of us to realize our equity on future streets? Mediocre made hand OOP at 0EV is probably easier to fuck up than nutty draw with no showdown value IP at 0 EV.
Horseofhell,
Nice video. I found several hands to be interesting spots, and I enjoyed your breakdown/analysis of those situations. Great job.
Thanks.
I really appreciate the analysis of these more "mundane" hands which really are the majority of decisions we make in a session. The short stack play was really beneficial for tourney play as well.
First hand, so we want a king to block his kk that folds? I wasn't too sure on this part.
Wouldn't having a T be good as we block more of his turned straight draws that continue and we have a future blocker to the straight that we can use to triple?
31:00 what about a turn xr? We have the boat blocker, we have boats in our range, and unblocking hearts would actually be a good thing since we unblock those draws that may have eq on us that will now fold.
43:00 my first thought was to pot flop since it is a wetter board and we wouldn't want to bet very linear. Then I thought that since it's a limped pot b vs b we don't have much of a range advantage, as such we bet smaller. Thoughts?
Thanks!
Hey Horse -- awesome format! Really enjoy this one -- the HH alone plus just the narrative gives me old school vibe haha, it can only be done by a great coach.
kudos!
Thank you,
It was fun watching and thinking about your presentation.
Regards,
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