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High Stakes $10/$20 Battle Session and PIO Analysis: Zeros vs LLinusLLove Pokerkluka & Mescarl

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High Stakes $10/$20 Battle Session and PIO Analysis: Zeros vs LLinusLLove Pokerkluka & Mescarl

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Elías Gutierrez

POSTED Mar 30, 2018

Elias Gutierrez aka SinKarma sits down at his pokercave in Tokyo ready to take on high stakes players across all oceans including LLinusLLove, Pokerkluka and Mescarl aka Isildur. He concludes the aggressive action with his PIO analysis of a spot he misplayed during the session.

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kalciis 7 years ago

What hands u continue here? 2:55 seems quite tight

Elías Gutierrez 7 years ago

I agree, personally I am not sure what hands I can call, it´s probably ok to go All-in or fold with no call at all, it´s not the kind of spot you can get a solution with a solver besides Snowie and it´s difficult to trust Snowie on these spots, I am still working on my 50bbs strategy :P (Snowie is doing call on this situation)

Diego Ramirez 7 years ago

Yup I think it's a very easy shove against SB vs BTN open, esp that 3bet sizing is very juicy :D

Calling range could add some EV but for the most part jamming/folding is the play

Kostanzhoglo 7 years ago

14:35 fold 77 with a flush draw seems totally crazy! Have you taken a look at this hand in Pio?
15:45 Why do you necessary have to polarize your range on Q42ss8s? I have seen some high stakes regulars play via small turn cbet such as ~33%

Elías Gutierrez 7 years ago

1/ Tell me what hands I am winning against betting on the flop and going to the River and checking besides the fact that some bluffs are likely to bluff again somewhere else. That´s why I did fold but I understand it´s probably a GTO call, I have some equity for a shitty flush but it´s something. I dond mind call, dont get me wrong but sometimes I make decisions based on logic more than solvers, I thought it was a bad spot to continue with 77 and probably you are right and it´s a ok call but definetely is not a crazy fold either.

2/ Turn bet 33% 3betpot IP? in highstakes? I dont know what spot it was but it´s difficult to believe it was playing in position (OOP it´s ok) The right logic/Gto way and to play In position 3betpots it´s to bet on the turn with bluffs and hands you are happy to go all in on the river and check all the other hands, there are exceptions but I prefer check with KQ on that one.

Kostanzhoglo 7 years ago

2/. Exactly, here is a bunch of proofs:
1 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abeba10d390438b6d8b4873
2 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abeba46d39043d8668b4831
3 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abeba74d390435b0d8b46d1
4 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abeba9ad39043ed0f8b4866
5 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebac5d390438b6d8b4898
6 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebae7d390435b0d8b46eb
7 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebb0ed39043180d8b4782
8 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebb30d39043180d8b479e
9 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebb66d39043d1688b4961
10 https://www.weaktight.com/h/5abebb8ed39043bf228b48d6
As you can see, a lot of regulars use this low turn cbet in position in 3bet pots, including turns when flush came.

Elías Gutierrez 7 years ago

2/ That´s pretty interesting, I remember when I was studying with Pio in position it would recomend most of the times 50% on the flop and 30% on some special boards and rarely/never 1/3 of the pot on the turn after cbet on the flop.

I have to take a second look on this strategy, thank you for bringing it up to me!

teunuss 7 years ago

Interesting syle of making vids, you probably put a lot of time in editing them, so big props for doing that. This way people see a lot of hands and it makes it very enjoyable to watch.

Some questions/thoughts.
Your preflop sizings seem a bit all over the place without any explanations: very small with 99 bb vs CO, fairly small KTs sb vs bu, very big AQo bb vs bu minr.
You also fastcalled AQo with 50-60bb stack vs big 3b from bb where shoving is certainly a play.
So should be better if you discuss it a little bit more while playing these preflop spots.

77 @14.30 is defenitely too tight.
@20.20 "he was bluffing", I dont think so ;), its more of an equity realization play.
@22.15, the cracking knuckles sound pierced right through my soul haha

Liked the KJss hand, interesting one, nice vid too watch!

Elías Gutierrez 7 years ago

Preflop I´ve been trying new things lately so I prefer to wait before I say anything about the way I approach it, I definetely made a lot of changes lately. Anyway I have to recognize that I felt myself annoying in my first videos when I was saying on everyhand things about my preflop play, sore throat and very little useful information, I´ll try to remember to explain preflop things (in case I know what I am doing XD) if the hand is interesting.

AQ: I dont remember the spot so I am not sure but maybe you are right.

20:20 When I said he is bluffing I meant Mescarl, not pokerlukka, he did raise on the Turn after calling check raise on the flop and then I said 44 like thinking, Lukka won, I mixed it up so it´s confusing yes..

22:15: :P

teunuss 7 years ago

Ah sorry I thought the 44 hand the action was bet/call, but you can interpretate that 2 ways, you were right it was bet raise call :)!

AQ spot is @11.30 fwiw

Everest 7 years ago

Hey dude, i love your videos format (small clips, nice music at the end and stuff), it makes it very enjoyable to watch as teunuss mentioned

few questions : as Pio prefer your 58% bet vs smaller ones flop w KJs (sb 3b v BT) i think you should have tried even stronger bet like pot size or slight overbet (spr was4 i think) , i'm pretty sure he might like it with specific combos (maybe JJ ? or JT ?) your are oop on a very wet board and it wouldnt shock me that he wants a 2 streets games w thoses hands and few bluffs as well (and other as mix strat obv)

I think you have set too many bet sizes for cbs, c/r, donkbets etc, you already know the board, and i dont think that ingame you use so many sizes and so many line in this specific board, so putting all those sizes will modify how Pio works the river, putting less but more accurate hypothesis will give you better idea of how Pio works the river (it might change drastically some decisions for specific combos) it's just my opinion ;)

good work !

Cheers

Elías Gutierrez 7 years ago

On 3straight boards Pio doesn´t recomend stronger sizings, it will recomend 50% or 30% more often because our overpairs will suffer a lot on 30-50% of the Turns if he does call, I agree with you if the board is T85 or something like that. I thought the same as you in the past but then I found myself in terrible spots on the turn with my overpairs and very little options but X-folding.

Actually I am putting all of those sizings because I want to know if Pio will recomend a different play, and it did on the river, I wasn´t considering 1/3 with my middle pair

Ty man!
Cheers

round2 6 years, 7 months ago

Really like your style Elias.

Question re: 15:30 ---> you say you cbet 1/2 pot with your entire cbet range w/KdQc on Q42dd after you 3bet on BTN v CO. I guess you will polarize your range with that sizing? Why not 1/3 pot with range?

Thanks

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