Hi Daniel. Loved the video. Really like the format of seeing cards at a FT. I personally prefer alot of spots to be discussed in 1 video. I have some questions.
16.15 - you say bit2easy should be sizing up flop to play a 2-street game. Besides overpairs here, what are some of the bluffs on the flop? Do hands like KdTd,QdJd, KsQx make sense for this size too?
17:10 - what do you think about calling 97 on the flop here vs the 30% sizing? Seems a bit weak to fold 2-overs & BDFD & BDSD even though he is up against a chip leader.
31:18 - what do you think of BB's check-shove OTT. What hands would you make this play with?
16:15 - we want to "bluff" some FDs that we just bet/call, and then our more straight up pure bluffs should be drawn mostly from non A-high BDFDs that have the flopped flush draw (so more QsJx than QJdd). With this SPR it's really important to block the flopped flush draw since you block x/shoves, additionally with this SPR it's also less appealing to have backdoor diamonds when flop goes bet/call (but turning a diamond draw after it goes x/x is pretty sweet).
17:10 - I don't think I would ever call, but mixing in some x/raising seems okay. I don't have a particularly strong opinion about this fold - in his shoes I would likely x/r if I thought villain was c-betting 100%, and like fold if I thought he checks back at some frequency.
31:18 - it's hard to comment on BB's play since I think that BU used a betsize that is very likely not often used theoretically in this spot. I would think we mostly either want to bet bigger or to check. Given the betsize we are facing, I don't think we are supposed to have much of a shoving range, a x/r to not all-in seems like a decent option. If forced to shove, I guess some combo draws like QJhh make the most sense to shove. But the answer to your question is probably "none".
6:00 what hands are in our bluff ch-shove range?? i see a lot of value hands, but only a few bluffs - we fold preflop most of offsuit combos... Is it a linear or a more polarized ch-shove range?
8:30 A6s hand - we block the opponents calling range on the river, but unblock the random turn ch-back and river bluffs. What do You think about inducing or ch-calling whit this combo?
31:50 what do u think about quiditbears bet fold on the turn?? There are also a lot of draws that can be shoved on....
Nice vid, I very like your deepest explanations in most spots
6:00 - we have KQo preflop, 6 of those combos have a spade so that should give us plenty of bluffs since we mostly want to continue by calling.
8:30 - I think checking to induce is logically sound, but empirically I don't see people here bluff much - it's really hard for him to represent any value hands and he knows that, so really often this spot will just go x/x even when he has no hope of winning at showdown. So I think I prefer betting and hoping to get called by A-high.
31:50 - I touched on a different aspect of this hand in my reply to CherryWaves (above). I don't think quiditbears should bet the turn or use this sizing much, so once he does bet that size and gets shoved on we are in explo land and in a very tricky spot. BB could be shoving with a lot of draws, but I think a lot of draws that would be looking to shove gets x/raised on the flop at a pretty high frequency, especially with stacks as they are. You can make the argument that Kx will x/raise the flop often as well, but a lot of the worse Kx hands are very natural x/call, so if I had to guess the BB is more likely to be weighted towards value than bluffs, so as played I like the fold, however I think it's a spot that could/should have been avoided.
The hand at 18:24, I ran it through HERC with the payouts and assuming HJ opening range of 21.9% (that was HERC's optimal range), HJ should only be calling off here with 77+, ATs+, AQo, KQs. I ran it because the KQo seemed a little loose to me. Thoughts? Maybe HJ is opening wider, meaning button's reshoving wider and KQo becomes a call in your view?
Hmm, looking at it 21.9% seems very very tight to me - I would be opening at least 25% here from the HJ and potentially closer to 30% depending on the table. What settings did you run it at that it output 21.9% as the optimal opening range? If you post a screenshot of the results/settings I can comment further.
The mistake in the sim is that you allowed for flatting and over-flatting of opens, which leads to pretty wonky results because it just assumes that everyone can flat and realize 100% of their equity which is not true, particularly for the players in the blinds who will be OOP. A good way to think of it is that this is the worst case scenario for the opener, so whatever the true opening range should be, we can assume that it's wider than this output. So what should happen is that HJ should open a tad wider than this sim suggests, and KQo likely makes it into the calling range (though by no means a fist pump call). If you look at the way the BU responds to the open, a lot of the hands which KQo does well against end up in calling pre, and a good subset of them don't actually call pre pretty much ever in my experience (especially stuff like 55-77).
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Hi Daniel. Loved the video. Really like the format of seeing cards at a FT. I personally prefer alot of spots to be discussed in 1 video. I have some questions.
16.15 - you say bit2easy should be sizing up flop to play a 2-street game. Besides overpairs here, what are some of the bluffs on the flop? Do hands like KdTd,QdJd, KsQx make sense for this size too?
17:10 - what do you think about calling 97 on the flop here vs the 30% sizing? Seems a bit weak to fold 2-overs & BDFD & BDSD even though he is up against a chip leader.
31:18 - what do you think of BB's check-shove OTT. What hands would you make this play with?
Hey! Sorry for the long delay.
16:15 - we want to "bluff" some FDs that we just bet/call, and then our more straight up pure bluffs should be drawn mostly from non A-high BDFDs that have the flopped flush draw (so more QsJx than QJdd). With this SPR it's really important to block the flopped flush draw since you block x/shoves, additionally with this SPR it's also less appealing to have backdoor diamonds when flop goes bet/call (but turning a diamond draw after it goes x/x is pretty sweet).
17:10 - I don't think I would ever call, but mixing in some x/raising seems okay. I don't have a particularly strong opinion about this fold - in his shoes I would likely x/r if I thought villain was c-betting 100%, and like fold if I thought he checks back at some frequency.
31:18 - it's hard to comment on BB's play since I think that BU used a betsize that is very likely not often used theoretically in this spot. I would think we mostly either want to bet bigger or to check. Given the betsize we are facing, I don't think we are supposed to have much of a shoving range, a x/r to not all-in seems like a decent option. If forced to shove, I guess some combo draws like QJhh make the most sense to shove. But the answer to your question is probably "none".
6:00 what hands are in our bluff ch-shove range?? i see a lot of value hands, but only a few bluffs - we fold preflop most of offsuit combos... Is it a linear or a more polarized ch-shove range?
8:30 A6s hand - we block the opponents calling range on the river, but unblock the random turn ch-back and river bluffs. What do You think about inducing or ch-calling whit this combo?
31:50 what do u think about quiditbears bet fold on the turn?? There are also a lot of draws that can be shoved on....
Nice vid, I very like your deepest explanations in most spots
6:00 - we have KQo preflop, 6 of those combos have a spade so that should give us plenty of bluffs since we mostly want to continue by calling.
8:30 - I think checking to induce is logically sound, but empirically I don't see people here bluff much - it's really hard for him to represent any value hands and he knows that, so really often this spot will just go x/x even when he has no hope of winning at showdown. So I think I prefer betting and hoping to get called by A-high.
31:50 - I touched on a different aspect of this hand in my reply to CherryWaves (above). I don't think quiditbears should bet the turn or use this sizing much, so once he does bet that size and gets shoved on we are in explo land and in a very tricky spot. BB could be shoving with a lot of draws, but I think a lot of draws that would be looking to shove gets x/raised on the flop at a pretty high frequency, especially with stacks as they are. You can make the argument that Kx will x/raise the flop often as well, but a lot of the worse Kx hands are very natural x/call, so if I had to guess the BB is more likely to be weighted towards value than bluffs, so as played I like the fold, however I think it's a spot that could/should have been avoided.
Love the format. Especially your pio work
Thank you!
Can you post the FT payouts?
Below are the actual payouts, after a deal was made HU. Without the deal it would be 21.92% for 1st and 16.67% for 2nd.
1: $53,516.23 (19.968%)
2: $49,909.72 (18.623%)
3: $33,990.60 (12.683%)
4: $25,856.18 (9.647%)
5: $19,668.46 (7.338%)
6: $14,961.52 (5.582%)
7: $11,381.02 (4.246%)
8: $8,657.39 (3.23%)
9: $6,585.56 (2.457%)
Nice video Sir!
Thank you!
Please continue reviewing the table after u were busted. Really cool format ;)
Ps are u coming to WSOP?)
Thank you, and I will, up to but not including HU.
No WSOP for me :(
The hand at 18:24, I ran it through HERC with the payouts and assuming HJ opening range of 21.9% (that was HERC's optimal range), HJ should only be calling off here with 77+, ATs+, AQo, KQs. I ran it because the KQo seemed a little loose to me. Thoughts? Maybe HJ is opening wider, meaning button's reshoving wider and KQo becomes a call in your view?
Hmm, looking at it 21.9% seems very very tight to me - I would be opening at least 25% here from the HJ and potentially closer to 30% depending on the table. What settings did you run it at that it output 21.9% as the optimal opening range? If you post a screenshot of the results/settings I can comment further.
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Daniel-Not sure why, now it has HJ opening up 23.4% (see above), but the calloff range vs button shove is still 77+, ATs+, AQo, KQs
The mistake in the sim is that you allowed for flatting and over-flatting of opens, which leads to pretty wonky results because it just assumes that everyone can flat and realize 100% of their equity which is not true, particularly for the players in the blinds who will be OOP. A good way to think of it is that this is the worst case scenario for the opener, so whatever the true opening range should be, we can assume that it's wider than this output. So what should happen is that HJ should open a tad wider than this sim suggests, and KQo likely makes it into the calling range (though by no means a fist pump call). If you look at the way the BU responds to the open, a lot of the hands which KQo does well against end up in calling pre, and a good subset of them don't actually call pre pretty much ever in my experience (especially stuff like 55-77).
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