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High Rolling with Daniel Dvoress (Part 4)

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POSTED May 18, 2018

We reach the final table in this 4th installment of Daniel Dvoress' high roller series breaking down his play in the $2,100 high roller event. Due to their importance, all hands at the final table are shown and Daniel offers his advice on the play of hands that he wasn't involved in as well.

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CherryWaves 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi Daniel. Loved the video. Really like the format of seeing cards at a FT. I personally prefer alot of spots to be discussed in 1 video. I have some questions.

16.15 - you say bit2easy should be sizing up flop to play a 2-street game. Besides overpairs here, what are some of the bluffs on the flop? Do hands like KdTd,QdJd, KsQx make sense for this size too?

17:10 - what do you think about calling 97 on the flop here vs the 30% sizing? Seems a bit weak to fold 2-overs & BDFD & BDSD even though he is up against a chip leader.

31:18 - what do you think of BB's check-shove OTT. What hands would you make this play with?

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 10 months ago

Hey! Sorry for the long delay.

16:15 - we want to "bluff" some FDs that we just bet/call, and then our more straight up pure bluffs should be drawn mostly from non A-high BDFDs that have the flopped flush draw (so more QsJx than QJdd). With this SPR it's really important to block the flopped flush draw since you block x/shoves, additionally with this SPR it's also less appealing to have backdoor diamonds when flop goes bet/call (but turning a diamond draw after it goes x/x is pretty sweet).

17:10 - I don't think I would ever call, but mixing in some x/raising seems okay. I don't have a particularly strong opinion about this fold - in his shoes I would likely x/r if I thought villain was c-betting 100%, and like fold if I thought he checks back at some frequency.

31:18 - it's hard to comment on BB's play since I think that BU used a betsize that is very likely not often used theoretically in this spot. I would think we mostly either want to bet bigger or to check. Given the betsize we are facing, I don't think we are supposed to have much of a shoving range, a x/r to not all-in seems like a decent option. If forced to shove, I guess some combo draws like QJhh make the most sense to shove. But the answer to your question is probably "none".

spewspew 6 years, 11 months ago

6:00 what hands are in our bluff ch-shove range?? i see a lot of value hands, but only a few bluffs - we fold preflop most of offsuit combos... Is it a linear or a more polarized ch-shove range?
8:30 A6s hand - we block the opponents calling range on the river, but unblock the random turn ch-back and river bluffs. What do You think about inducing or ch-calling whit this combo?
31:50 what do u think about quiditbears bet fold on the turn?? There are also a lot of draws that can be shoved on....
Nice vid, I very like your deepest explanations in most spots

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 10 months ago

6:00 - we have KQo preflop, 6 of those combos have a spade so that should give us plenty of bluffs since we mostly want to continue by calling.

8:30 - I think checking to induce is logically sound, but empirically I don't see people here bluff much - it's really hard for him to represent any value hands and he knows that, so really often this spot will just go x/x even when he has no hope of winning at showdown. So I think I prefer betting and hoping to get called by A-high.

31:50 - I touched on a different aspect of this hand in my reply to CherryWaves (above). I don't think quiditbears should bet the turn or use this sizing much, so once he does bet that size and gets shoved on we are in explo land and in a very tricky spot. BB could be shoving with a lot of draws, but I think a lot of draws that would be looking to shove gets x/raised on the flop at a pretty high frequency, especially with stacks as they are. You can make the argument that Kx will x/raise the flop often as well, but a lot of the worse Kx hands are very natural x/call, so if I had to guess the BB is more likely to be weighted towards value than bluffs, so as played I like the fold, however I think it's a spot that could/should have been avoided.

bricksterpoker 6 years, 11 months ago

Can you post the FT payouts?

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 10 months ago

Below are the actual payouts, after a deal was made HU. Without the deal it would be 21.92% for 1st and 16.67% for 2nd.

1: $53,516.23 (19.968%)

2: $49,909.72 (18.623%)

3: $33,990.60 (12.683%)

4: $25,856.18 (9.647%)

5: $19,668.46 (7.338%)

6: $14,961.52 (5.582%)

7: $11,381.02 (4.246%)

8: $8,657.39 (3.23%)

9: $6,585.56 (2.457%)

bricksterpoker 6 years, 10 months ago

The hand at 18:24, I ran it through HERC with the payouts and assuming HJ opening range of 21.9% (that was HERC's optimal range), HJ should only be calling off here with 77+, ATs+, AQo, KQs. I ran it because the KQo seemed a little loose to me. Thoughts? Maybe HJ is opening wider, meaning button's reshoving wider and KQo becomes a call in your view?

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 9 months ago

Hmm, looking at it 21.9% seems very very tight to me - I would be opening at least 25% here from the HJ and potentially closer to 30% depending on the table. What settings did you run it at that it output 21.9% as the optimal opening range? If you post a screenshot of the results/settings I can comment further.

bricksterpoker 6 years, 9 months ago

Daniel-Not sure why, now it has HJ opening up 23.4% (see above), but the calloff range vs button shove is still 77+, ATs+, AQo, KQs

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 9 months ago

The mistake in the sim is that you allowed for flatting and over-flatting of opens, which leads to pretty wonky results because it just assumes that everyone can flat and realize 100% of their equity which is not true, particularly for the players in the blinds who will be OOP. A good way to think of it is that this is the worst case scenario for the opener, so whatever the true opening range should be, we can assume that it's wider than this output. So what should happen is that HJ should open a tad wider than this sim suggests, and KQo likely makes it into the calling range (though by no means a fist pump call). If you look at the way the BU responds to the open, a lot of the hands which KQo does well against end up in calling pre, and a good subset of them don't actually call pre pretty much ever in my experience (especially stuff like 55-77).

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