What are your thoughts on playing nitty vs seeing what you can get away with? So more hands per hour and just trying to maximize premiums (hourly) vs taking small edges to have higher bb/100?
I don't agree with playing nitty in any game or format. I just interpret that as 'I don't know the spots that I can profitably apply aggression' so i'll try to justify just playing the nuts. Every single good poker player is aggressive as they are able to generate EV in situations others are not.
Sorry I should add a bit more to this. Playing anonymous tables on zone poker. Where you have zero stats on anyone. I heard it go both ways before, from being nitty and printing, to be super laggy because pool in general will be a bit tighter, so can run over a lot of players. Players without a hud don't seem to adjust one way or the other.
Nah... even i play micros i prefer you playing 200nlz or higher making an effort on explaining hands in depth and thought prosess. Its obviouse that micros can be exploited anyway.
I have plenty of other videos mostly aimed around 200z and there is an elite tier for 500z+ if you want higher stakes. Most people in the comments seemed to appreciate the efforts and thought process behind my plays in this video however but thanks for your feedback.
Nice vid Henry as always! @ 2.15 you fold TT SB v open and 3b to 9bb due to the rake, at 200nl are you just flatting OOP or is it a mix between 4b and flatting or just a fold? also would u just 4 bet QQ+ here at 50nl and fold the rest? thanks mate.
I am folding TT here any game any rake. I have no cold call range OOP here as my range is too narrow and face up and I will struggle with realisation issues being OOP without initiative in the hand.
Henry Lister Hi. Thank you for the video. How much do you think the nl50 and nl100 zoom fields differ? going to move in the near future and don't know what to expect. how much stronger is the level of play at nl100? can you give some advice)
From my experience producing this video I tend to find lower stake games play more passively and face up. People play hands over ranges more transparently meaning you can bluff more aggressively but should be less likely to bluffcatch more liberally.
screamdustry - Let's not be so hasty =P I have discovered that the BB actually overfolds his offsuit Aces, and therefore 39.717% is the optimal c-bet sizing, as long as you mix in 3x overbet cbet with KK about a third of the time.
I learned that from a guy on YouTube who streams on Twitch. ;)
Awesome job Henry!
Clearly these games would significantly benefit taking an exploitative approach vs. a GTO approach. In fact, like you've stated in the video, playing GTO style would likely leave a lot of money on the table.
I noticed that you are folding pp's to single pf bet. What are your thoughts to the overall strategy with them? For example. if a UTG opens to 2x and we have 66 in a CO, when there are rec. blinds, this would likely create a 3-4 multiway pot, which will increase implied odds drastically. From a mental perspective, they are also obviously easy to play and do not require a lot of energy. This is helpful if one is looking to put in a decent volume per day.
I have found a lot of success with them playing on NJ sites.
Awesome thanks ! Do you think this is a good idea trying to move up the stakes playing zoom (I am struggling to beat z50) instead of reg tables ?
Is it possible to learn and be successful in zoom and moving up the stakes or we should hardly stick to reg tables?
Would just say, could probably fold more to 3-bets OOP pre. If you think people are under bluffing, they are probably 3-betting a quite tight range that dominates things like QJs/T9s
Have played a bit of 50NL lately, and I notice some people not even 3-betting AK, quite a lot like in live games. Maybe stars is a bit more aggressive than american sites tho
Overall this sounds like a good adjustment. Although if people play poorly postflop you can make up a slight EV discrepancy there. I would assume if I looked at data then you should be tighter preflop given the overall tightness of pool combined with rake.
Great video Henry! Please keep more of them coming !
I think a lot of the newer players on the site / essential members (like myself) can learn a lot from understanding and applying exploits to their pools in addition to working towards "straight GTO poker" - a lot of us realize how important solvers are, but might find it tough to learn and succeed through a Pio dominant approach. Videos like this help me (us?) better understand the game I'm in as well as my own leaks, which helps improve my game and profits.
I loved that instead of giving intuition for a specific hand, you tied it to the general approach you were targeting for the video. It can be tough to replicate your intuition from a specific spot, but when you give a theme and apply it to examples, it makes it stick better.
I also loved when you "taught us to fish" at ~11:00 with tips on building database reports to start adding/removing starting hands. More of these suggestions on how to improve our profitability through our software either fixing our own leaks or finding metaleaks would be awesome!
as you said, i saw on my database the ev when i opened from utg and mp some hands ... i have bb / 100 negative when I raise first with A2s-A5s, 67s-78s, and also with K2s-K6s from CO .... what do you think? Do I have to fold preflop? Overall I'm doing 5 bb / 100 over 500,000 hands on 50 nl stars.it ... instead it seems that the top of my opening range looks like this in the picture ... I am I doing a good job, or do I have to consider something else?
The hands you've highlighted are + EV RFI from the stated positions if you are seeing - EV results you must be making blunders post flop that is swinging the EV. Hope this helps!
If there are hands that are losing you money by playing them preflop, I think it's totally acceptable to fold them preflop and focus on playing the hands that make you money better, and then slowly reintroducing more hands over time/or opening them only when there is incentive to do so(weak player in blinds for example.) I don't think you lose much by playing a tighter strategy. Improve in the meantime, and then slowly expand your range as you play postflop better
exactly, i total agree with you, also because in my opinion depend by against wich reg are you playing. My raise first after that work is the same, from utg i'll fold those hands but i'll open 33-44-55 and KJo.... also i saw big different range to open in the CO. Is always 28% to opening but more 2 midium high cards... This in the picture are profitable hands..... i have to add K6s+ A6s+ . Simple strategy, medium high cards seems works better.
Thank you for your comment. I always appreciate any comparison. Surely I'm likely to make postflop mistakes. But even in the old database, in the past few years I have won by opening a few broadways off instead of those hands. I have a doubt because I am maybe (5 bb/100) good winning player and at the tables I only have regs that bet 7-10%...
I've seen that in 5.14 with AKo and 8.48 with KJo you double barrel 1/2 OTT, is it kind of an exploit towards the pool because not really "gto", do you recommend to use smaller bet in these spots instead of at least 3/4 in value?
What exactly do you mean by 'GTO'. If you can explain why you dislike the 50% sizing other than you should not do this vs someone playing perfect poker as a solver would recommend an alternative betsize then that's good.
If we use intuition we could simply say that our opponent wont check raise this turn enough so we can bet halfpot and fold to a raise comfortably and when he calls we have the ability to go thin for 3 streets on safe runouts.
The whole point of this video was to play using intuition and rationality rather than blindly following a solver.
I don't recommend using a specific size in any spot. I recommend you work out what your opponent or population is doing everywhere and nodelock either within PIO or intuitively to make a play with a particular combination vs your opponents' range that makes the most money whilst making your life simple and easily replicate-able.
at 29:15 in this spot, our line was 3betPF b/b and jam OTR, Do you think is better to check OTR rather than jamming blindly to induce some miss FDs to bluff because the only hands that I can see call our jam are 99s, TTs, JJs, and A8s(sometimes)?
Love this content, only just signed up to RIO and this is exactly the type of content I enjoy and is most beneficial to me at my current stakes. Thank you and keep it up....
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Incredibly helpful video. It's easy to overthink a lot of spots at the lower stakes against opponents that are easy to exploit.
Thanks for the kind words!
Haven't even watched the video yet and going to give it a heart!!!! You gave the people what they've been asking for and that deserves some love!
:)
Really enjoyed this one Henry, thanks for coming down to my stakes and showing me how it's done! Hope to see more of this :)
It's something I will consider for sure!
20:26 Nice triple barrel 3 way here.
Hahaha
What are your thoughts on playing nitty vs seeing what you can get away with? So more hands per hour and just trying to maximize premiums (hourly) vs taking small edges to have higher bb/100?
I don't agree with playing nitty in any game or format. I just interpret that as 'I don't know the spots that I can profitably apply aggression' so i'll try to justify just playing the nuts. Every single good poker player is aggressive as they are able to generate EV in situations others are not.
Sorry I should add a bit more to this. Playing anonymous tables on zone poker. Where you have zero stats on anyone. I heard it go both ways before, from being nitty and printing, to be super laggy because pool in general will be a bit tighter, so can run over a lot of players. Players without a hud don't seem to adjust one way or the other.
Loved it! Seen 4 videos since I started my subscription. This one was gold and if you have more like this I'll be sticking around!
Nah... even i play micros i prefer you playing 200nlz or higher making an effort on explaining hands in depth and thought prosess. Its obviouse that micros can be exploited anyway.
I have plenty of other videos mostly aimed around 200z and there is an elite tier for 500z+ if you want higher stakes. Most people in the comments seemed to appreciate the efforts and thought process behind my plays in this video however but thanks for your feedback.
Nice vid Henry as always! @ 2.15 you fold TT SB v open and 3b to 9bb due to the rake, at 200nl are you just flatting OOP or is it a mix between 4b and flatting or just a fold? also would u just 4 bet QQ+ here at 50nl and fold the rest? thanks mate.
I am folding TT here any game any rake. I have no cold call range OOP here as my range is too narrow and face up and I will struggle with realisation issues being OOP without initiative in the hand.
Henry Lister Hi. Thank you for the video. How much do you think the nl50 and nl100 zoom fields differ? going to move in the near future and don't know what to expect. how much stronger is the level of play at nl100? can you give some advice)
From my experience producing this video I tend to find lower stake games play more passively and face up. People play hands over ranges more transparently meaning you can bluff more aggressively but should be less likely to bluffcatch more liberally.
Great video Henry
Thanks !
Your explanation of the calldown with J9o at th 31’01” was great.
Thanks!
@4:50 AK
Dude, thats such an obvious x1,8 bet on the flop. At least 0,015 higher EV than your lazy sizing.
screamdustry - Let's not be so hasty =P I have discovered that the BB actually overfolds his offsuit Aces, and therefore 39.717% is the optimal c-bet sizing, as long as you mix in 3x overbet cbet with KK about a third of the time.
I learned that from a guy on YouTube who streams on Twitch. ;)
Awesome job Henry!
Clearly these games would significantly benefit taking an exploitative approach vs. a GTO approach. In fact, like you've stated in the video, playing GTO style would likely leave a lot of money on the table.
I noticed that you are folding pp's to single pf bet. What are your thoughts to the overall strategy with them? For example. if a UTG opens to 2x and we have 66 in a CO, when there are rec. blinds, this would likely create a 3-4 multiway pot, which will increase implied odds drastically. From a mental perspective, they are also obviously easy to play and do not require a lot of energy. This is helpful if one is looking to put in a decent volume per day.
I have found a lot of success with them playing on NJ sites.
Nice to see this kind of content thanks a lot Henry ! All clear and detailed! :)
Awesome thanks ! Do you think this is a good idea trying to move up the stakes playing zoom (I am struggling to beat z50) instead of reg tables ?
Is it possible to learn and be successful in zoom and moving up the stakes or we should hardly stick to reg tables?
Can I also ask you if you have any range advises? I'm using solver ranges from another site but I wonder if I should play tighter ranges there?
Great. Much more of this format.
I think it speaks much more to essential members constituency than 500 zoom does.
Totally agree should have more videos like this
Would just say, could probably fold more to 3-bets OOP pre. If you think people are under bluffing, they are probably 3-betting a quite tight range that dominates things like QJs/T9s
Have played a bit of 50NL lately, and I notice some people not even 3-betting AK, quite a lot like in live games. Maybe stars is a bit more aggressive than american sites tho
I have the same question as well. What to do with 3-bet OOP pre with small pairs, and SCs. Wish Henry could explain. Thanks.
Overall this sounds like a good adjustment. Although if people play poorly postflop you can make up a slight EV discrepancy there. I would assume if I looked at data then you should be tighter preflop given the overall tightness of pool combined with rake.
Great video Henry! Please keep more of them coming !
I think a lot of the newer players on the site / essential members (like myself) can learn a lot from understanding and applying exploits to their pools in addition to working towards "straight GTO poker" - a lot of us realize how important solvers are, but might find it tough to learn and succeed through a Pio dominant approach. Videos like this help me (us?) better understand the game I'm in as well as my own leaks, which helps improve my game and profits.
I loved that instead of giving intuition for a specific hand, you tied it to the general approach you were targeting for the video. It can be tough to replicate your intuition from a specific spot, but when you give a theme and apply it to examples, it makes it stick better.
I also loved when you "taught us to fish" at ~11:00 with tips on building database reports to start adding/removing starting hands. More of these suggestions on how to improve our profitability through our software either fixing our own leaks or finding metaleaks would be awesome!
Great video!
Does anyone know where i can download that Random number generator that Henry uses?
Nope, but I see a lot of people just google for "random number between 1 and 100" and use the "widget" that Google provides.
I guess that starshelper can provide that. Starscaption too
It's within starshelper.
More of these videos Henry!
as you said, i saw on my database the ev when i opened from utg and mp some hands ... i have bb / 100 negative when I raise first with A2s-A5s, 67s-78s, and also with K2s-K6s from CO .... what do you think? Do I have to fold preflop? Overall I'm doing 5 bb / 100 over 500,000 hands on 50 nl stars.it ... instead it seems that the top of my opening range looks like this in the picture ... I am I doing a good job, or do I have to consider something else?
The hands you've highlighted are + EV RFI from the stated positions if you are seeing - EV results you must be making blunders post flop that is swinging the EV. Hope this helps!
Would be a good option if I'll try with filters: raise fr1 + sow flop true?
If there are hands that are losing you money by playing them preflop, I think it's totally acceptable to fold them preflop and focus on playing the hands that make you money better, and then slowly reintroducing more hands over time/or opening them only when there is incentive to do so(weak player in blinds for example.) I don't think you lose much by playing a tighter strategy. Improve in the meantime, and then slowly expand your range as you play postflop better
exactly, i total agree with you, also because in my opinion depend by against wich reg are you playing. My raise first after that work is the same, from utg i'll fold those hands but i'll open 33-44-55 and KJo.... also i saw big different range to open in the CO. Is always 28% to opening but more 2 midium high cards... This in the picture are profitable hands..... i have to add K6s+ A6s+ . Simple strategy, medium high cards seems works better.
Thank you for your comment. I always appreciate any comparison. Surely I'm likely to make postflop mistakes. But even in the old database, in the past few years I have won by opening a few broadways off instead of those hands. I have a doubt because I am maybe (5 bb/100) good winning player and at the tables I only have regs that bet 7-10%...
I've seen that in 5.14 with AKo and 8.48 with KJo you double barrel 1/2 OTT, is it kind of an exploit towards the pool because not really "gto", do you recommend to use smaller bet in these spots instead of at least 3/4 in value?

Came to inquire about this as well.
Me too. Seems to make no sense, maybe it's like a high frequency barrel, because average op doesn't c/r enough?
What exactly do you mean by 'GTO'. If you can explain why you dislike the 50% sizing other than you should not do this vs someone playing perfect poker as a solver would recommend an alternative betsize then that's good.
If we use intuition we could simply say that our opponent wont check raise this turn enough so we can bet halfpot and fold to a raise comfortably and when he calls we have the ability to go thin for 3 streets on safe runouts.
The whole point of this video was to play using intuition and rationality rather than blindly following a solver.
I don't recommend using a specific size in any spot. I recommend you work out what your opponent or population is doing everywhere and nodelock either within PIO or intuitively to make a play with a particular combination vs your opponents' range that makes the most money whilst making your life simple and easily replicate-able.
Greetings from France! Love your videos, I would love more videos on z50 or even z25.
Great stuff Henry keep it coming!
Great Video ! Where can i get this randomizer programm?
Someone asked about this above but I didn't see a reply:
At about 22:00 you folded 66 to a 2.2bb raise. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you fold that versus flatting to see a flop.
at 29:15 in this spot, our line was 3betPF b/b and jam OTR, Do you think is better to check OTR rather than jamming blindly to induce some miss FDs to bluff because the only hands that I can see call our jam are 99s, TTs, JJs, and A8s(sometimes)?

Nnnnnnice!
Love this content, only just signed up to RIO and this is exactly the type of content I enjoy and is most beneficial to me at my current stakes. Thank you and keep it up....
What a great Video mate!!! Pure value for me. Go on with that kind of session!
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