PokerStars Tuesday $100r (part 3)
Posted by Grayson Ramage
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hey grayson, great video!
3handed, when croll decides to turn 66 into a bluff, its really only intended to fold an ace right? if he assumes you are bluffing that river a lot, which its a quite obvious card to do it, isnt it just better for him just to bluff catch ?
am i missing something here or his thoughts probably were that he is likely to have the best hand and in case you do have an ace you will have a hard time calling?
I think he is probably not expecting me to fold 9x, although 97 is basically the same as Ax when he c/shoves. Whether or not a call is better really depends on how often I am calling a shove and how often I am bluffing.
He can pretty credibly rep 9x or better here, so I think his line is fine.
Nice video, I have 2 questions.
The 5-7ss sick cold 4bet from the bb facing an utg open and utg+1 3bet. Are you doing this primarily off of a sizing tell, a player read, or the fact that we can freeze some really good hands once in awhile while making our 7-5ss look like QQ/AK+/?
Also the Q-6ss 3 handed, are you bet calling this turn? At 4k-8k
Nice run in the main event.
I 4bet 57ss mainly because of how he had been playing. In retrospect, given that he is 3betting AQ to that size, it is probably a pretty poor cold 4bet spot, unless he 3bets light there a lot.
Grayson,
I've learned alot from all your videos; especially your cosiderations on bet sizing in various situations. I liked when you added stove and excell spots and look forward to more; possibly some ICM spots. I'd be interested in what our range to call would be on the KQs vs. 33 hand for instance, when it was 3 handed. (But do you have the payouts available in a HH video?)
What I would like most is to get a series' hand history to review, up front before you start a new series. Videos are terribly inefficient as teaching tools sometimes, I watch them and everything makes sense but I question how helpful they are if I am not thinking through the situations myself first. This is especially hard to do with our clunky video player here. But even on sites with better video formats its not much easier.
As far as giving out hh's, I'd prefer not to. However, I do understand why you would want to have them from a learning perspective, and if enough people can give me a good enough reason, I may reconsider.
what do you think of Croll's play 3 handed where he defends BB vs BT min open w 12 BBs and QTs, and then next orbit he jams over BT min open w 11 BBs w QJo ... (around 56 min in )
Great vid Grayson!
At the 16:30 mark you talk about profitably defending JQo vs a 15bb utg open getting the right price. At what point do you take reverse implied odds into account in these situations and ignore the immediate price on a call? If you hit a J on a J high flop and he's only stacking off w/ AJ+ are you not putting yourself in an awkward spot? Are you calling here bc you have a big stack and can afford to vs if you had a relatively even/medium stack to the opener (ie 15-25bb stack)?
I play mostly cash now but I know back in the day the standard thought in mtt's was it wasn't profitable to flat w/ a 15-20bb eff stack. I feel as if this thought process has changed over the years. Is there a certain bb range cutoff to where you feel it is not profitable to flat and it is basically a shove/fold decision?
You are definitely right that defending your BB very wide seems to be all the rage now in MTTs. I think it can still be profitable to defend with certain hands that play well postflop, especially against LP opens, even with very short stacks (<10bb).
37:30 mark Croll shoves KQs for 22bbs from the button and you say you are ahead of his range. What's a reasonable range for shoving 22bbs? If you give him a range of Ax, all pairs, all broadways you have 49% equity. Widen his range a little bit and maybe you're slightly +EV but w/ ICM considerations is this ever a fold? 22bbs seems like a lot to call off here w/ a hand that looks better than it is. Additionally, I would think that his range widens at around 15-18 or so but 22 should narrow his range slightly. Thoughts?
Looking back, I think you are right that this is a bad call due to ICM considerations. Even though KQs is a very good hand, it doesn't do great against his shoving range, as you pointed out.
44 minute mark you call Croll's cr w/ 79s on an A river. Are you calling off w/ an A in that spot since it is essentially the same hand outside of your 9x blocker (ie still a bluff catcher and he should never be check shoving an A on the river unless he somehow flatted a big A pre which is highly unlikely)
would flatting all of jizzis 3bets until he realizes how stupid his oop 3bet sizings are
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