$200 Rush: Exploiting the Games you Play In
Posted by Gary Chappell
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10:22 (T3): Hero B-B-XC.
Q1) I've been folding SCs vs LJ-CO and 3 betting them vs button. When I double checked wizard it is doing the opposite with 15-25% frequency for SCs to 3bet preflop. Is this SB going polar vs tighter ranges and linear vs wider ranges?
Q2) I was surprised to see Wizard playing B33-B75-XC here. I understand the river XC unblocking all bluffs and people not finding enough thin value shoves on the river with JX but I am not sure about the turn barrel. When I checked this on wizard 65s is checking and 54s is betting. I would rather bet OESD than bottom pair here. Can you explain this to me?
It's designed to fold out better hands (eg 66-99 that may float, and some Tx). And get called by worse hands (AK/AQ/KQ, spades). It even denies equity from some AQ that will fold.
7:40 (T3) you talk about opening 98o vs recs or players that under 3bet that you can exploit. On wizard when I look at BB defense MW its very tight including folding A9s-A6s, T9s-54s all folding at some frequency. Wizard range for BB defense MW. What range would you defend considering they are all recs to some degree?
if its vs recs, i'd defend wider with the additional EV that you can expect to achieve postflop. plus recs have wider ranges than gto, so all those marginal hands would become profitable. the hands you mentioned are all good hands to play mway with good playability, and i'd favour these over offsuit hands.
14:30 (T3) I'm surprised to see JJ bet the turn and the overall turn strategy to be so aggressive. I expected a lot of checking from sets on the turn in 3BP SB vs BTN. Is the turn check mostly only when we use small flop CB? We stay aggressive when we use larger flop CB? The stack size on the turn if hero goes B75-B50 seems a bit awkward. What is the thought process behind these awkward stack sizes?
Wizard turn strategy
Wizard turn strategy if we go 1/3 flop.
Once we go B75 on flop, we considerably narrow villains range to made hands, so the value comes from betting. as opposed to when we go B30 villain has to float wide and is left with a lot of air (KQo/Q9s), so value is gained from allowing them to bluff. thats my take on it. once we go B75, any T/J/Q/K becomes a great card for our range as our bluffs centre around QJs/KJs, so we want to bet this turn aggressively with our range to put pressure on 7x & pockets, and any AQs floats.
16:24 (T2) seems really nitty from opponent. Hero XC 1/3 flop. Donk B75 on turn brick. B75 river HU where BTN flats with 88. If you don't have T7s or 75s in HJ range, this river flat by opponent because you are deep seems overly nitty. Maybe he doesn't get called by worse often enough being 99 or 66? Over pairs I assume just fold to a raise? But calling with 88 here seems really nitty. What would you do in his shoes? What size would you raise to? At least a click right?
17:05 (T3) Where does the value come from when 3betting fish with SCs? If they are already low frequency 3bet to begin with and now you have less FE vs a fish where is the value? Note at 100bb wizard 3 betting 65s CO vs LJ 50% of the time. Way higher than I was thinking (15%). Is the value from them calling a lot and just over folding to flop 1/3?
Wizard 50bb range CO vs LJ
yep, comes from outplaying them postflop with their wide range where they'll have tons of folds. and also from getting paid when we flop nutted.
Hey Gary, great video. Many interesting spots & pretty accurate read! It's great to see how you adjust your strategy quicky to exploit recs after a few hands with them, learned a lot, thank you!
10:30 Table 3 SBvUTG you 3bet a rec w 54s. I agree with everything regarding the postflop. Just wondering if you know these types of player will be 1) continuing a ton of offsuit BWs, 2) calling wider postflop (especially against cbet), doesn't our speculative hands goes down in EV especially when we are OOP since most of the time they are going to miss and they will peel wide? Thank you!
I just like playing as many pots with recs as possible, so I play hands that have good playability where I can navigate postflop against recs quite effectively. All recs are slightly different, so profiling them is important. Yes they peel wide vs CBs, so mindlessly CBing isn't a great idea - have a plan in the hand and fire at least 2 barrels if you know they float wide. As a caveat it is important to still play 'good poker' and hand select accordingly using blocker effects, range interaction etc, and not to get too involved in the bluff by the river as the likelihood is a rec isnt folding when committed half their stack.
20:10 Table 2 you XR A6o on T63r BBvBU vs a b75 cbet and block the turn brick after get called, wondering what's the thought process for this hand especially the turn node? Thank you!
Ultimately just doing what my hand wants to achieve against this player type - not really overly fussed about 'balance' and 'gto' when playing recs as it's not always the highest EV strategy. Recs can't exploit you as much as regs, so my strategy changes.
My reasoning here was that my hand benefits from folding out all random overcards like QJo/Q9o that button opens, and i can get called by worse (6x/55/floats). Turn my hand is worth a small bet, and wants to fold out some of those overcard floats. Also some pot control against a rec who wont value raise (or bluff raise) often enough.
Do you think we need to be more carefully vs b75 from rec? Feel it's somewhat value heavy when they do not study "preferred sizing" for different type of boards, I always worried they are hand-playing when I see big sizing.
we need to be more 'careful' v B75 simply because we're getting a worse price. Exploitively, recs B75 is probably a strong range in 3Bp, but again profiling is important. It's best to play solid and not make too many assumptions without knowing how your opponent plays.
33:15 Table 1, villain b50 on A33r BBvCO 3bp, I understand b50 is a fine sizing at equilibrium but do you think pool using small sizing too much here and b50 is probably more bluff heavy? Thank you!
I have no strong feeling here as players all have different strategies so I just try and play solid and adapt my continuing range dependant on size.
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