Building Simple and Effective Turn Strategies

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Building Simple and Effective Turn Strategies

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POSTED Aug 28, 2023

Why make things more complicated than they need to be? Freenachos takes this to heart when he explores how to construct a turn strategy that effectively mixes both simplicity with effectiveness.

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bananastand 1 year, 6 months ago

sorry I was watching your flop video too. "nacho's playbook" i think it's called

Freenachos 1 year, 6 months ago

The Playbook refers to our methodology in our CFP. It's basically an online learning environment for the players in our CFP that consists of a few hundred pages with instructions, data, videos etc.

GMjunior 1 year, 6 months ago

Im not so familiar with Pio but I was wondering if this sort of nodelocking approach affects previous streets. So for example if villain new that on flush completing runnouts you were never Over betting they could change their strategy accordingly OTF. Perhaps this is not the best example but I imagine this is the case that future simplifications could lead to pre-emptive exploitation.

mx404 1 year, 6 months ago

It will -- but you can lock the previous street action, aka you can tell PIO we will keep the flop action as it was, now the nodelocking will only influence the turn/river strategy.

Freenachos 1 year, 6 months ago

Or you can build a subtree, which is what I did in the video iirc. This means you'll use the get-to-turn ranges and effectively build a new tree from turn onwards. There are some spots where if you node-lock a certain action you might see solver hard exploiting that (whether it's the current street or the next), if you expect the pool to not do that (which usually it wont) then you can just copy the original strategy and paste it in the node-locked version.

craghack 1 year, 6 months ago

Great video, thank you! Do you think on some runouts (straight ,flush, low/mid flop card pairing) we can simplify our whole turn strategy to range check? And in general can we go range check on runouts which are uncapping villain's range and bring new nutted combos?

matlittle 1 year, 5 months ago

Great video, got a lot of insight from your data graphics and subsequent exploits!

One thing I noticed was that population is significantly overfolding monotone boards vs cbet. Is your default strategy on monotone boards therefore to cbet range for a small sizing?

Would you do this on any monotone texture regardless of the size of the cards?

Would you still do this vs a good reg?

38.30 - K544
Solver betting turn more with diamonds or clubs because they block 4x.
Hearts and spades don't block 4x, but hearts unblocks BDFD so bets more than spades.
Hence the bluffing frequency is diamonds/clubs > hearts > spades

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