Thanks for the kind comment. It takes around 30 min to discuss a board in depth (I didn't want to be superficial in my analysis), the goal of the video is to show how to analyze a specific dynamic, not to show multiple spots with a similar concept (I do lots of hand review videos for this).
I think it depends on your expectations before you watch something: some videos are about methodology, others are live play, others are themed. Every topic can be tackled from different angles and I thought this was the most appropriate for what I had in mind.
I like to develop and analyze multiple strategical options and always teach my students to do so, in order to have a deeper understanding of the game and be able to handle complexity. I understand this method is not for everyone and not everyone would like to watch a video like this, but at the same time none is forcing you to and there are lots of options that might better suit your taste.
I have to defend Francesco with regards to the title. Our titles are often only selected at a later stage and not always directly crafted by the pro. In this case it's likely that our (potentially poor) title choice did play a major role in raising wrong expectations for this video.
I did enjoy the video but obviously it's more of an exemplary deep dive to understand the concept opposed to an all-encompassing scripting video. I do believe that both learning approaches have their place and can enrich your understanding of the spot.
Hi Francesco.
I find your video very interesting.
I have some questions to be able to get a clear heuristic.
I noticed that this strategy is only allowed to us (I'm talking about the bvb scenario) when sb checks range in range advantage.
but usually if sb has a range advantage and uses a fullrange strategy, he should cbet flop.
the only case in which bvb sb can simplify a checkrange despite the advantage I think is just a45, a23 etc.
correct?
can you tell me other boards where this low freq overbet strategy vs checkrange comes in handy?
I have seen that instead if (for example bvb) we from bb have an advantage in range or we are equal to ev compared to bb and ev (these are the spots where I see the checkrange most frequently) (so for example 678, 345 etc.), PIO recommends a stab around 40% with size allowed that do not exceed 40-50% pot.
do you have any advice for me to get more clarity?
thank you so much
On very coordinated boards such as 6 7 8, 345, etc we'd rather use smaller bet sizes as you mentioned (anything between 30% and 60% works). We don't want to be extremely polar on such textures, because they're extremely dynamic and protection plays a role.
The overbet is common only on A high boards, because it's a sort of "way ahead way behind" type of spot and the IP player wants to bet an extremely polarized range. It also punishes players that play mixed strategies and check a very showdown value type range. It can also be implemented on other textures where the OOP player has a ton of strong sd value (KJ x, ATx) if they check. So it's something to consider not only against range checking, but an interesting exploit to poorly balanced checking ranges on more "static" board textures.
RunItTw1ce
before you replied, I deleted my message because I considered it inappropriate.
after having pointed this out, I would like to point out that I do not see this inconsistency that makes you laugh so much.
a format can be interesting and a person can appreciate that format and also ask more general questions regarding strategies.
it was not my intention to be aggressive and argumentative towards you, which is why I deleted my message immediately after writing it.
I apologize if I have spoken badly to you.
touché My comment was not "professional" by any means and RIO told me the coach doesn't choose the title, which was the main misunderstanding. As you question suggest, you don't have a clear grasp on what the strategy is, hence why we both would like to see more examples. The format itself is fine, just need more examples for clarity. I will edit my comment.
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Great video loved it
comment edited: Would like to see more examples for more clarity of the strategy.
Thanks for the kind comment. It takes around 30 min to discuss a board in depth (I didn't want to be superficial in my analysis), the goal of the video is to show how to analyze a specific dynamic, not to show multiple spots with a similar concept (I do lots of hand review videos for this).
I think it depends on your expectations before you watch something: some videos are about methodology, others are live play, others are themed. Every topic can be tackled from different angles and I thought this was the most appropriate for what I had in mind.
I like to develop and analyze multiple strategical options and always teach my students to do so, in order to have a deeper understanding of the game and be able to handle complexity. I understand this method is not for everyone and not everyone would like to watch a video like this, but at the same time none is forcing you to and there are lots of options that might better suit your taste.
I have to defend Francesco with regards to the title. Our titles are often only selected at a later stage and not always directly crafted by the pro. In this case it's likely that our (potentially poor) title choice did play a major role in raising wrong expectations for this video.
I did enjoy the video but obviously it's more of an exemplary deep dive to understand the concept opposed to an all-encompassing scripting video. I do believe that both learning approaches have their place and can enrich your understanding of the spot.
Hi Francesco.
I find your video very interesting.
I have some questions to be able to get a clear heuristic.
I noticed that this strategy is only allowed to us (I'm talking about the bvb scenario) when sb checks range in range advantage.
but usually if sb has a range advantage and uses a fullrange strategy, he should cbet flop.
the only case in which bvb sb can simplify a checkrange despite the advantage I think is just a45, a23 etc.
correct?
can you tell me other boards where this low freq overbet strategy vs checkrange comes in handy?
I have seen that instead if (for example bvb) we from bb have an advantage in range or we are equal to ev compared to bb and ev (these are the spots where I see the checkrange most frequently) (so for example 678, 345 etc.), PIO recommends a stab around 40% with size allowed that do not exceed 40-50% pot.
do you have any advice for me to get more clarity?
thank you so much
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On very coordinated boards such as 6 7 8, 345, etc we'd rather use smaller bet sizes as you mentioned (anything between 30% and 60% works). We don't want to be extremely polar on such textures, because they're extremely dynamic and protection plays a role.
The overbet is common only on A high boards, because it's a sort of "way ahead way behind" type of spot and the IP player wants to bet an extremely polarized range. It also punishes players that play mixed strategies and check a very showdown value type range. It can also be implemented on other textures where the OOP player has a ton of strong sd value (KJ x, ATx) if they check. So it's something to consider not only against range checking, but an interesting exploit to poorly balanced checking ranges on more "static" board textures.
RunItTw1ce
before you replied, I deleted my message because I considered it inappropriate.
after having pointed this out, I would like to point out that I do not see this inconsistency that makes you laugh so much.
a format can be interesting and a person can appreciate that format and also ask more general questions regarding strategies.
it was not my intention to be aggressive and argumentative towards you, which is why I deleted my message immediately after writing it.
I apologize if I have spoken badly to you.
touché My comment was not "professional" by any means and RIO told me the coach doesn't choose the title, which was the main misunderstanding. As you question suggest, you don't have a clear grasp on what the strategy is, hence why we both would like to see more examples. The format itself is fine, just need more examples for clarity. I will edit my comment.
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