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Flop Strategy as Preflop Aggressor (part 1)

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JNandez87

POSTED May 08, 2014

Fernando outlines his strategies for hands in which he is the preflop aggressor.

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CallyBoy 10 years, 11 months ago

I would love to see calling 4bets oop scenarios 200+ bb deep and what ranges you shove/fold to 4bets oop deep against certain positions. Great vid!

rkruok 10 years, 11 months ago

Yep some more videos, where you are the caller of the 3bets in and out of position.  Also some more examples when you are the 3 better out of position, and where you are taking stabs with a polarized range, including flops you are giving up on. 

Sro238 10 years, 11 months ago

I would also suggest a video that strictly talks about board texture in 3b pots, that would be quite helpful as well.

Andreas Nyberg 10 years, 11 months ago

I like your video a lot, and it is very nice to see that you don't talk about things which are not conform with the topic, still i think an elite video should be more advanced. And I have lots of questions:

the main question is: on most boards, we don't find enough hands which will protect our betting range, when we should strengthen our checking range. To make it simple: Most of the time when I put hands into my checking range, it hurts more the betting range than it helps the checking range. This leads me to the conclusion on some boards I have to fight back thinner instead of strengthening my checking range and on some boards I have to check nearly all of my range. Of course if someone goes out of line and is too aggressive (bets a lot) when checked to than it is easy to strengthen the checking range but as long as someone is medium aggressive, I still think that weakening the betting range harms more than helps.

Now to the hand examples:

@18 with AQ9 on AQ9s vs a passive raiser, I think I can find a fold, what do you think how much our equity vs the raising range of a passive player is and what do you think what is his raising range on this board vs a 3 bettor? We need 40% vs his range, but if he is not raising any Ass, we don't have more than 35, do we?

@24 villain raises a lot: your actual hand, although vulnerable to higher two pair draws, still looks like a very good hand to call a raise and see a non diamond turn (we have also higher two pair outs and a nutbackdoorflushdraw). I think his range is loaded with lots of flushdraws and he will make more mistakes on the turn than we will. A disadvantage is ofc that we are oop. But with no straights possible on the turn. A call and lead turn or a call and check raise turn seems to be better than get it in now, where he cannot make any mistakes vs our actual hand on the flop (in position I think it is a clear call).

@27 Your check calling range seems to be so heavy in Pot Control hands which come with a backdoor flush and surely not with the nutflushdraw. Given that I think a lower flush you would not donk on the river, I guess calling there with a straight is not bad. At least in his shoes, I would have difficulties to fold too. Would you please explain what our leading range on the river looks like? With SPR 0.5 are we leading there any flush? I see you turning lots of Top pair hands into a bluff.

@33:55 villain raises a lot and you say that when we bet and he calls, we will have difficulties to bluff flush turns, but his raising range (especially without the nutflushblocker is very unpolarized on this board texture) contains so many flushdraws, which makes his calling range so weak on the spade turns, and I think vs a guy who raises a lot, we should not check our Nutflushdraws. I think (at least if his 50% stab range should be more polarized here than his raising range) we still should bet and not go for a ckraise. Our check raising range is so heavy in Nutflushdraws that he should stab here more polarized when checked to (I would bet here small and more polarized, surely checking back some flushes). --> I think the way you played it is better than your recommendation at 100BB stacksize (in the actual hand you are deeper, so checking might be better).

My comments are just for the sake of some discussion and thank you for a very nice Video.




Witek H 10 years, 11 months ago

Great, great, great video! 

Playing in 3bet pots out of position is the weakest part of my game. I updated my popup with stats "bet vs mcb in 3bet" etc. and now I have tools to improve my game.  It works really well for me. 

I would like to see more about this concept, but anything theoretical with hands examples in replayer would be great.

Thanks!

SayWhatAllLate 10 years, 8 months ago

Hi, everyone.  

Anyone can help me?    I mean i can not hear the video clearly when Jnandez87 explains the HUD. something i know like the bottom line is agg of flop/turn /river. something i do not know like the first line?   so who can help me to write out the whold hud as english words ?

something like this   :  first line  ***/ *** /***

                               second line : name/hands/fold to 4bet?/..

                               third line : ......


anyone can help me?  thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!

StaticVoid 10 years, 6 months ago

~39:00 when you are holding AKQJ on Q35r flop you mention that against average opponents this hand is should just be getting this in. Perhaps with 100BB this may be reasonable but in this situation we around 280BB. I feel like if we get this in on the flop this deep, we are simply crushed. Would you mind elaborating on this?

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