This was great to hear. I can relate to the ups and downs at the table, the fear of bluffing/confrontation and it just occurred to me that I've been over confident in many situations in the past. I've had a lot of success throughout the years in most of the live games I play, with mixed results online and in Vegas.
In the past month or so though, I have committed to studying GTO for the first time. Mathew Janda's book has been such an eye opener. Some of the errors in my thinking are really embarrassing, but it's helped me see where other players are making mistakes too. Besides Janda's book and watching videos here, are there any other books or exercises you would recommend?
Appreciate the work you're doing, man! Keep grinding.
Very much appreciated the video-- I definitely find myself where I am reluctant to make a play due to fear until I consider that all the possible outcomes themselves do not bother me. It seems to be a common human condition. The subconscious weighting toward more comfortable strategies also seems to leak into my live play. I also find sometime relying on pure knowledge can be too comforting live versus villains that are very unbalanced in a particular spot and the knowledge can be the crutch I use to make the more comfortable play ironically. For example, we are at the top of our range at some point -- have to call -- but not versus the nit that just doesn't bluff. Or the inverse.
knowing your players' tendencies is part of our complete knowledge. You are ignoring a part of your knowledge if you don't consider that into your decisions.
Agree with what Zach says. Also, the "top of my range so I call" argument only applies if villain has bluffs in his range. I hear this a lot from players facing certain loose passive fish who just don't bluff, so it really doesn't matter where you're at in your range when the move is just to exploitably fold. A lot.
Awesome video, I really resonated and identified with the inner mental dynamic you described. I am a live player and I find myself in many situations where I know I should be bluffing (at least in theory I think I should be) but I end up not doing so because I think to myself "Oh this guy is for sure going to call me" and then I mentally recall some absurd/crazy play he/she made in the past when I should probably be more focused on the current session/moment and what actions/tendencies my opponent has recently displayed. Sometimes in these kind of spots I think the reason I tend to second-guess my decision to bluff is due to a crossover between theory and game-flow. Theoretically I believe I am supposed to bluff but I have second thoughts because subconsciously I feel as though my opponent's live mannerisms, gestures, and most recent decisions/actions at the table make it seem more likely like he's going to call. I'm not sure if I'm making complete sense here and I probably can't describe this dynamic as clearly as you did in this video but if you could give me some feedback on what you think that would be great...
Also, I'm not suggesting that I feel this way every time I bluff but sometimes I feel like I just need to be confident, buckle down, and empty the clip!
I think what you are describing is your mind finding reasons to justify not taking the right action at times. But those justifications are also correct at times as well. Meaning, sometimes the opponent really does call way too often for you to bluff even though vs your range they should fold. Basically there is no easy answer. Just try to be honest with yourself.
I've been a full-time poker player since July 2005. I can relate strongly with the chart at the end of the video. I've said many times, "Poker only gets harder as you get better" or something to that effect. My fondest years of poker will always be those first couple years as a winning player. Poker was easy. It was simple. It's still fun. I love it. But it's a lot different now.
A video dedicated solely to the chart and how it applies to a poker player would make for a great video.
I also really like the term 'Knowledge Confidence.' It's a powerful term that makes logical and practical sense.
This is a good video. For me personally I feel like the fear of making mistakes and the self-criticism that follows afterwards is part of the confrontation you mention. But instead of a confrontation with another player it is a confrontation with the critical part of myself that I try to avoid.
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This was great to hear. I can relate to the ups and downs at the table, the fear of bluffing/confrontation and it just occurred to me that I've been over confident in many situations in the past. I've had a lot of success throughout the years in most of the live games I play, with mixed results online and in Vegas.
In the past month or so though, I have committed to studying GTO for the first time. Mathew Janda's book has been such an eye opener. Some of the errors in my thinking are really embarrassing, but it's helped me see where other players are making mistakes too. Besides Janda's book and watching videos here, are there any other books or exercises you would recommend?
Appreciate the work you're doing, man! Keep grinding.
I'd Talk poker with people who are equally good or better than you. It's so helpful if you can network with such individuals.
good video
I'm an online player, but this is for sure my biggest mental leak. I think you are on point about knowledge confidence. Back to the lab..
Great video. Very clearly explained, and the pace of it is really good. Thank you.
Very much appreciated the video-- I definitely find myself where I am reluctant to make a play due to fear until I consider that all the possible outcomes themselves do not bother me. It seems to be a common human condition. The subconscious weighting toward more comfortable strategies also seems to leak into my live play. I also find sometime relying on pure knowledge can be too comforting live versus villains that are very unbalanced in a particular spot and the knowledge can be the crutch I use to make the more comfortable play ironically. For example, we are at the top of our range at some point -- have to call -- but not versus the nit that just doesn't bluff. Or the inverse.
knowing your players' tendencies is part of our complete knowledge. You are ignoring a part of your knowledge if you don't consider that into your decisions.
Agree with what Zach says. Also, the "top of my range so I call" argument only applies if villain has bluffs in his range. I hear this a lot from players facing certain loose passive fish who just don't bluff, so it really doesn't matter where you're at in your range when the move is just to exploitably fold. A lot.
Great video. This type of video is amongst my favorites.
By the way, it's in the category "PLO", which I believe is wrong.
Thanks for the compliment(s) zilbee and others. I am glad the video was well received.
Thank you for this very interesting topic and that interesting graph!
Awesome video, I really resonated and identified with the inner mental dynamic you described. I am a live player and I find myself in many situations where I know I should be bluffing (at least in theory I think I should be) but I end up not doing so because I think to myself "Oh this guy is for sure going to call me" and then I mentally recall some absurd/crazy play he/she made in the past when I should probably be more focused on the current session/moment and what actions/tendencies my opponent has recently displayed. Sometimes in these kind of spots I think the reason I tend to second-guess my decision to bluff is due to a crossover between theory and game-flow. Theoretically I believe I am supposed to bluff but I have second thoughts because subconsciously I feel as though my opponent's live mannerisms, gestures, and most recent decisions/actions at the table make it seem more likely like he's going to call. I'm not sure if I'm making complete sense here and I probably can't describe this dynamic as clearly as you did in this video but if you could give me some feedback on what you think that would be great...
Also, I'm not suggesting that I feel this way every time I bluff but sometimes I feel like I just need to be confident, buckle down, and empty the clip!
Thanks.
I think what you are describing is your mind finding reasons to justify not taking the right action at times. But those justifications are also correct at times as well. Meaning, sometimes the opponent really does call way too often for you to bluff even though vs your range they should fold. Basically there is no easy answer. Just try to be honest with yourself.
I've been a full-time poker player since July 2005. I can relate strongly with the chart at the end of the video. I've said many times, "Poker only gets harder as you get better" or something to that effect. My fondest years of poker will always be those first couple years as a winning player. Poker was easy. It was simple. It's still fun. I love it. But it's a lot different now.
A video dedicated solely to the chart and how it applies to a poker player would make for a great video.
I also really like the term 'Knowledge Confidence.' It's a powerful term that makes logical and practical sense.
Thanks for the video
This is a good video. For me personally I feel like the fear of making mistakes and the self-criticism that follows afterwards is part of the confrontation you mention. But instead of a confrontation with another player it is a confrontation with the critical part of myself that I try to avoid.
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