Facing River Aggression
Posted by Richard Gryko
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Your stars sn is appropriate and your videos are great
love this format.
Though I gave you kudos privately I feel they're deserved publicly. Loved the point about holding a flush w/ 2 high cards (like J10) vs a higher flush but high card/low card (like Q4). Also love the point of proceeding with caution on broadway boards as the 3 bettor because duh - everyone knows you have the AA and will want to use the blockers.
+1
Thanks very much Mikey, all kudos much appreciated :)
I'm studying rivers while watching this video!
A great video.
One thing I'd like to add, though, is that people in practicd check (back) lots of mediocre flushes on flop AND river in a 3b pot, so you can't always discount those combos when you get to the river.
hey, true, but I think that in practice this happens some amount less often on ace high boards (assume you're referencing the final hand?) where OOP range usually has a lot more 2pr/set combos and therefore the equity of a mediocre flush is likely more robust vs an OOP chk/continue range. At equilibrium, although I haven't done enough work to conclusively know, I';d imagine your point is very likely true (potentially more so OOP v BTN than OOP v HJ though?)
At 30:20, I thought it was not a clear decision at all with KKT8 on 5895Q river when he bombed allin. You said "these hands are a succession of clear calls", and then went on to the next hand without showing if you called or folded that one.
Could you elaborate please which hands you are calling on that turn that are folding the river? If you are calling this one, I can't think of many hands that are folding.
I thought in a vacuum that hand was a relatively clear fold, apologies if that was ambiguous. he bet static turn into 2ppl, my hand is prob one of the worst I call vs that sizing with, then bombed a riv that improved some of his semibluffs when I have a bunch of better hands and my combo unblocks all his value and blocks some of his bluffs. He has a polarity advantage so gets to be pretty aggressive but all three of us are pretty tight pf so he shouldnt have a massive amount of natural bluffs, also obviously if im calling hands like mine im calling way too much of my range in general in a spot where I neither need nor want to be. I dont know exactly how much he'd need to be overbluffing to deviate to the extent required for my hand to become a call, but i imagine it'd involve a turn strategy that leaks a bunch of EV, mostly to me.
Thank you for the response! Loved the video and your style of explaining things. If you are looking for ideas for videos - I would love to see the same format (covering a bunch of hands from your database) with these filters:-
1) effective stack 300bb+
2) HU 3bet pot
3) OOP
2 part series. Part 1 as preflop caller. Part 2 as preflop 3bettor.
There is so much content on here for 100bb play and hardly any for deep/super deep.
Thanks!
A+
Ty for this, more videos on rivers would be great.
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