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Espen Sørlie

POSTED Dec 07, 2012

Espen continues his review of his Big $109 as the tournament moves into the middle to late stages, culminating at the final table.

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AntonZ87 12 years, 4 months ago
I think with KQs blind vs blind hand I don't really like to shove. You describe player that likes to peel and call a lot, so I assume he would have hard time folding even one pair just A8A9A4 (also look at his chips, he has bunch of them!, it makes slightly easy him to call that, u not putting his life on a line), so basically u wanna fold all his 7x 6x and like J9J8 hands. I think u can do it with 50-60k bet and still have about 100k which you can work with if u were wrong.
atwu 11 years, 10 months ago

Pretty much exactly my thoughts... and I think he will quite often call even A high on the flop and therefore hit the turn those times.

Espen Sørlie 12 years, 4 months ago
Can you give me the time of the QKs hand so I can quickly find it?

c/shoving turn with AK sounds like a great option when I think about it. It might be hard for us to get 3 streets from JJ, QQ TT etc., and I think he's probs going to check them back and call a slightly bigger bet on the river with them, and bet his draws most of the time so we get to stick in more money against that or fold out equity if he b/f's them.

thanks for the feedback :)
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 4 months ago
Elnino: I usually bring up a HUD at the end of sessions when I have few tables left. I find it hard to process all the stats when I have like 20 tables so it sort of just gets in the way. I have tried it out a bit, but I personally prefer to play without
AntonZ87 12 years, 4 months ago
the KQs hand starts at 19 minutes
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 4 months ago
aah ye. I think if we don't expect him to fold a random ace to a jam then betting 50-60k is a lot better. But, I think we can credibly rep every strong hand this board since I would play every set, straight and twopair combo like this. I think if he bet say 55k he would just snap us off with A8 A9 A4 etc cuz he has the ace, but if I jam he will think about all the things I can have and probably fold.
I might be wrong and get snapped off by Ax tho :P In that case as I said I agree with your points
adrianrio 12 years, 3 months ago
I hate folding 88 in the 45 min. I cannot understand how you did that (28,5 blinds to put more) blind vs blind when he does not look all that strong there. I think you are way ahead of his range there. (see the hand before that). Could you explain how you can fold this ever in that spot?
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 3 months ago
Sorry Im late answering these. I said in the video I should've jammed so I dont disagree with you. Sometimes with a lot of tables you make mistakes ingame that when you look back at them they look horrendous. You asked for reason why a fold could ever be correct tho so I will try. Basically with his sizing it seems like he is never folding. It is not very good for us to get it in flipping or slightly ahead since we have a couple of stack covered and the chips we gain are not worth as much as the chips we might lose. If I were him and had a small pair I would probably 3b smaller so I get to 5b jam over a 4b with fe and not 3b huge so I have to call off a 4bjam. he probably doesnt think like that tho so I guess he has smaller pairs and some smaller aces in his range that we would like to stack off against. I would also discount the very top of his range somewhat even tho he might have it sometimes trying to level us into jamming since he made it big last time too. I do agree I should've went with it but there's some reasons not to like you asked for. Hope you enjoyed the video ;)
Serdec 12 years, 3 months ago
38:00 I put some ranges in the pokerstoves, and it says its a fold, but im nearly sure im doing something wrong
We need to win ~36% and we have ~33% equity ("AKo" vs "77+,A9s+,AJo+ KQo" vs "99+, ATs+, AJo+") do u think I assume correct ranges?
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 3 months ago
Wait! Did you take the huge sidepot into account and that we dont need to beat both of them ~36% etc? If not I can try and do some maths on it when I have time
Tele 12 years, 3 months ago
Really liked these videos. I would def jam 8s at the end, big pot with a very likely chanse that hes got air or some Ax hand that we crush. Him having a smaller pair than ours would not surprise me either.

Call AK vs decent stack and a 40bb reshove at the final table felt somewhat questionable (I dont say wrong) considering it was 2 small stacks at the table.
fedormercier23 12 years, 2 months ago
In this tournament you was previously involved in a great amount of hands with "lo co co", and you should have made a conclusion that he is a total retard. But when you're playing hand versus him on the final table (QT one) you are analyzing his thoughts like he is an ubertopregular that was fun.

Previosuly I watched a video of a similar FT of 109 by Jono Crute, he seems to be an ICM specialsist. And than i saw you cover two people with AK in the beginning of the final table it made me feel sick. Awful ICM-based move i think. You motivate it with that you're opening wide so you dominate their ranges, and IMO this is no more than self-leveling, but you got lucky to have a piece there. Next time on FT you'll open middle position with AK and call 2 shoves from the blinds and will be busted by aces and kings.

And of course weird sb vs bb spot when you have pocket 88's. What was that. Look how you playing, look how ugly this is, Tony G is furious
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 2 months ago
First of all, I don't call anyone a retard in my videos. That is just rude and unnecessary and might hurt someones feeling etc. I am not interested in making the really bad players stop playing poker because they feel harassed by better players. I don't get why winning players would ever do that.

On to the hands you are calling me out on if you really want to discuss them. In the QT hand I think any punter will realize it is a spot he can put a good amount of pressure on me by bluffraising the flop (bec of the shortstack). + there are loads of draws there to be semibluffing with. Dont really know what you mean by me analyzing his thoughts as a "ubertopregular", I just said I think it is a spot he can show up with a lot of goofy hands because of the shorter stack. We also get a very good price with a gutshot to go with it. Sure enough he showed up with A6o and checked the turn most likely to c/f. So I was right in pretty much everything here and Im not sure what you are talking about.

about the AK and 88 hands. AK hand someone earlier in the comment section proved that we don't have enough equity to call so I accepted that and admitted I probably made a mistake. That said it is not as bad icm wise as you seem to think. the example in Jonos vid villain cover us and we are second in chips. Here we cover both of them and can keep laddering at the final.
In the 88 hand you are not making any arguments, just saying Tony G would be mad (what does that even mean?). And I even said IN THE VIDEO that 88 in this spot is WAY to strong to fold. When I do hh reviews I find a lot of mistakes and talk about what I should have done, what I did in the heat of the moment is obviously not always the right play. I talk about spots where I did stuff right (in my opinion) and spots where I made mistakes so both you and me can learn from them and hopefully not make the same mistakes again.
TheDarkestHype 12 years, 2 months ago
Regarding TT @ about 24 minute mark.

Don't you think that (based on what you saw from your opponent previously) when you jam, you will be most likely snapped by range that crashes you ? Also, do you ever consider folding here to a player that seems to play sort of poor ABC, especially against such a big sizing (ofc his hands denies that statement, but it seems resonable considering the previous hands against him) ?
Espen Sørlie 11 years, 3 months ago

Today, almost a year later, I think 4b/calling is way better than jamming. Flatting is kinda fine too depending on the player. TT just does so well against 5b bluffjaming hands that we dont want him to be able to get away from. 

m3SLYFOX 12 years, 1 month ago
Yo Espen?
Er det greit å snakke norsk her, eller vil du ta det på engelsk?
Anyway, I was just wondering when was this tournament played? It seemed like the field was ridiculously soft for a 109$ BI... Anyway, what do you think about check/shove the turn with AK at 29 minutes? And, do you feel there is a difference between the skill level in MTTs on the 20-75 $ level between FullTilt and PokerStars? Thanks!
Espen Sørlie 12 years, 1 month ago
We can take it in english so other people here understand us ;)
Should be last summer or something, I am not completely sure. Someone else suggested c/s AK there ott, and I agree that sounds like a great option!

Probably is a decent amount softer on pokerstars at the current time in my opinion

Hope you liked the video :)
ashley jenkin 12 years ago
hi im new here, first off great video love your thought process and the way you explain spots. you mention 20 tables do you sort of play in auto pilot mode for 20 tables?
Oscar Lapua 11 years, 9 months ago

Hi Espen , great job to be quit beginner making videos , please keep doing it ;)

I got a question , in min 30 of video you got Ak that 3b and get cold call from the button , asuming that his range its pretty face up in this kind of c/call normally are like medium pairs like 99+Aq and maybe some trapping .... and in a board kh5d6d3c  could be more efecctive or prof to be smaller like 30% cuz were not afraid or any f/drws to make more room for our oponents to make some kind of move or  to get call and  make the pot bigger and force him to call a small value at the river ?

Thanks 


bluff call 10 years, 6 months ago

Hey thanks for the video, def. learning a lot from you.

@27:34

Following questions:

1) On what range do we put villain, if he check/calls our Turn Bet? Flush Draws, A9 of hearts? J9 got there OTT? Given his C/R OTF can we discard a random eight, a Ten with weak-Medium kicker, even AT from his range?

2) Are we done with the hand, if villain calls turn or do we barrel a brick OTR? What size do we barrel?

3) How big of a bet do we call (if at all), if the river bricks and Villain leads out.


THANKS and I#M hoping for an answer even though, the video is an older one.

Espen Sørlie 10 years, 6 months ago

thanks, 

2 year old hand, but I'll do my best. I think most 9x will just bet again unless he has exactly 97s (only clubs and diamonds). I think, from what I said this player will have some medium tens in his range. The turn bet seems to me now to only serve as a protection bet. sure it is nice to get him to fold maybe AJ or QK, but I don't feel like it is worth it, + it opens us up to getting raised again. Pretty confident Im not betting river if he calls turn, just checking back with the sdv but expect to be beat a decent bit. Also folding if he leads bricks.. 

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