I have some comments/questions too:
At 19:23 (FTP FT) u open shoved BvB 63o against shortest (the only real shortstack at table actually atm). I don't know what u know about that player. But if he understand what your doing, and i bet he should understand that you ATC shove here and being that short compared to anyone he can profitable call you with very wide range without risking that much. (nash suggest 44%). (you can see calculation here http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#fkxT i don't know payout structure so i randomly set it as 180stt, but that doesnt matter much here )
I too hate to fold SB to very short player, but i tend to fold very bottom range on BvB when i facing only short at FT lately, since they haven't anything to loss and tbh calling loose chipleader SB push might be best option to gain those chips for them if they understand that.
For example. I would call you in similar stacks situation with something like A2s+,A2o+,K4s+, K7o+, 22+ and all kind of suited connectors (maybe even some unsuited), thats looots of hands. And i consider myself as nit in ICM situations. But i should add that i am turbo structure player mostly.
Second thing i noticed, i think you was way to tight in HOT 25. Don't remember hands, but iirc there was lots of BTN that you shouldn't folded in turbo structure :)
Espen Sørlie12 years, 1 month agoThanks for feedback! Looks like I should have folded the 63o there. I do however feel that people on finals fold a bit more than they should even if they are shortest. That said you probably know these spots better than me if you are a turbo player, so thanks again, I am learning too :) ivanb12 years, 1 month agoYeah they do fold more then should. But when they that short compare to everyone they might be desperate to gain some chips :) It's hard to grind that large sample of FT in regular MTT, but in 180s you can see such spots every day of grind. And amounts of chips i lost to BvB pushes to shortstackers on FT when they win with something like 9 - high is pretty big :D But well that something like ego play, when you hate to let table see you folding SB to shortie :)
Mine main concern is how irrelevant for you one blind, while 70k chips loss is still huge. Esp. for bullying table
Matthew Affleck12 years, 1 month agoThoughts on the 66 open at the 9 minute mark in the Turbo? Seems like it is a little to loose to open since you are priced in to call so many of the short stacks behind you? Just seems like a significant portion of your stack is going to be at risk most times for little % gain in your stack? Same goes with the QJo open the next hand? Both seem a little to loose to me but i could very easily be wrong
sorry Im so late with answering just missed your comment
Matthew Affleck12 years, 1 month agoReally enjoy this format Espen, I agree though with 6 tables being better. Also how the hell can you stand the software on the top right table!
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Def. do 6 table next time so more action.
I have some comments/questions too:
At 19:23 (FTP FT) u open shoved BvB 63o against shortest (the only real shortstack at table actually atm). I don't know what u know about that player. But if he understand what your doing, and i bet he should understand that you ATC shove here and being that short compared to anyone he can profitable call you with very wide range without risking that much. (nash suggest 44%). (you can see calculation here http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#fkxT i don't know payout structure so i randomly set it as 180stt, but that doesnt matter much here )
I too hate to fold SB to very short player, but i tend to fold very bottom range on BvB when i facing only short at FT lately, since they haven't anything to loss and tbh calling loose chipleader SB push might be best option to gain those chips for them if they understand that.
For example. I would call you in similar stacks situation with something like A2s+,A2o+,K4s+, K7o+, 22+ and all kind of suited connectors (maybe even some unsuited), thats looots of hands. And i consider myself as nit in ICM situations. But i should add that i am turbo structure player mostly.
Second thing i noticed, i think you was way to tight in HOT 25. Don't remember hands, but iirc there was lots of BTN that you shouldn't folded in turbo structure :)
Mine main concern is how irrelevant for you one blind, while 70k chips loss is still huge. Esp. for bullying table
I don't mind that. I think we have a hand strong enough to open and call off shorties with the price
sorry Im so late with answering just missed your comment
oh its not live... u said I prob gonna open j4... and ur like oh I didn't...
na title might be a bit misleading. I recorded a live session and talked over it
Where is part 4?
There is no part 4. decided to cut it short since nothing more interresting happened!
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