I agree! Actually I wanted to review a 6max database, there is a second part but after that one next videos wont be on fullring

Actually what I said it´s the rule to follow in order to polarize your game, you dont want to bet on the turn (most of the times) with hands you can´t bet for value on the River, that´s the way to build the check range on the Turn and that´s how to polarize with value hands! With the bluffs it depends, normally you wont want to bet all of them so what I would recomend you it´s to check proportionally with your value hands, for example, on K75 7 I will cbet + Xbeh turn a lot on the turn, probably I will have like 70% general check, then if I have a draw I will check them 70% of the times and bet with them 30% of the times.

It´s important for you to know that not all textures follow the same rules and also out of position things will be different very often as well, there are hundreds of things I could say to elaborate more these thoughts but it´s impossible to do it on this format, you will need to watch more content until those things happen!

Regards!

Hi elias,
Thanks a lot for explaning that to me. In this example, we have a middle range hand.K8 on K75J double suited board. Would you prefer to mainly taking bet,bet check line against this type of player or bet,check, call line against him? I only play heads-up online, so i don't know what type of player this is. My read is that he is loose-passive. And i feel that we have a lot of jacks and A high in our range on the turn.

Pllaying 6max from the Button K8 would be check turn against BB IP after Cbet flop, it doesn´t feel comfortable betting on the River so you should check on the turn to protect other weaker hands, specially because on this kind of situation we would want to bet only using overbets playing deepstack. On HU I can´t say what´s the best play honestly. Obv it wont be EV- to bet on the turn, I am talking about building a solid and balanced strategy to get a better general style.

Yes! NEVER all in on that one :P

Imo fold yes, they use sometimes Top pairs and you are pretty dead against those hands, even if they have a weaker pair you must bluff and it´s unlikely they will fold later. I would call the raise having highcards with equity to get a good Top pair and backdoor flush or Showdownvalue, and obv, draws.

This seemed really light to me. We're making a ton of assumptions in our call. The most of which is that when we do get there, they are stacking off. That has to be true for this to even approach being correct. Otherwise, were never making up for the plethora of turn/river folds we have.

I also think it does some pretty ugly stuff to our bet/call range overall on these dry textures.

Just my two cents.

People will fold less if you bet 1/3 of the pot but you need less success to make money with your bet, the size you use on the flop should be made based on the texture of the board and how your general range want to react to that scenario against the range of the opponent, if you bet 1/2 with everything you are not thinking about the situation correctly and that will be the reason why you will not improve more, there are more strategies on the flop you should do (75%-100% bets also) I personally think you are in the highest place you can be with your current strategy, I recomend you a lot to work more on your game.

It´s difficult to respond to that because those stats must change depending on the stakes, the rake must influence our preflop game and also those stats will be totally different if we play 3-4max sometimes. Can you ask me more specific?

Hi Elìas, of course I can ;o)
I played MTTs for 6 month and just startet a couple weeks playing NL25 ZOOM. I just played 38k hands so far and after I watched your vid, I checked some of the stats you mentionend:
WTSD%: 28% WWSF: 53% Bet R: 45% Fold vs R Bet: 54% WSD: 49% Call R+ WSD: 42%

My Results in the first 38k hands are good so far (12BB/100 but relatively small sample). In your Video you said the WTSD% should be around 29-32% in a 6max environment. So I was curios what the other numbers should look like in your experience.

Thanks for taking your time to answer the questions!

It seems your stats are super aggro!

I recomend you to work on your game until you are same as aggressive as you are right now but bluffing in the right spots, usually players with 53 WWSF bet as a bluff hands they shouldn´t but at the same time they are not making other mistakes other passive players are doing.

The long term right WWSF it´s 50%, same on the WSD.

Your bet river it´s good, people tend to overfold on the river and you are doing a good job on that but you should have that number by having a lot of small bets on the river on a lot of sequences (valuebetting a lot of middle range hands), otherwise you will overbluff a lot and it´s obviously difficult to help you on that with no info at all.

Fold river will be the best at 55-64% I believe nowadays, on nl25 probably 60-64% will be the best.

WTSD 28% seems ok because your WWSF is super high so you can´t have a high WTSD as well unless you do a lot of shitty calls, I am impress it´s not 27 or 26 with your style and that would be bad.

I recomend you to continue making decisions on the tables instead of changing your game because you want to improve stats, that´s not the right way to do it. Dont change your style because you want to change your stats, change your stats by changing your strategy for the right reasons!

Regards

Hi Elìas,

thanks a lot for your detailed answer!

At the moment I work on building a solid strategy. It is no my goal to improve my stats. But I was very curios when I heard you interpret the stats and what these specific stats can tell about the style someone is playing.

Your interpretation about my playing-style is on point. In this limit it seems to work fine to put a lot a pressure when I assume someone's playing a weak range. But it is also true that I tend to do it not always in the best situations.

A lot to learn :o) Thanks again for taken the time to respond! Looking forward to your next vids!

I love bluffing 1/3 against recreationals if I can do 75% Turn (even if you bet 1/2 they will float garbage and by doing this you get a lot of extra call+Folds) using hands like 2 overcards / Attacking High Turns o Rivers with nothing etc. It depends of the runnout, with As highs they will float more bluffs and you will have easier calls on the river after X-X Turn as well.

Sometimes if you have a hand that it´s unlikely you can bet on the turn again and you dont have showdown value it makes sense to bet 1/2 directly, 86 was ok but you were not doing it exploitative so that´s why I told you about this strategy. Against regs I would play more solid.

FWIW Elias strategy in his reply prints money at live poker as well, freq small c-bets and larger turn bets.

If you have low fold equity and you have a strong hand the best thing you can do will be bet always, poker is about getting money from people when you bet with something good and they call with something worst, when you bluff and they fold, when they bet for value and you dont call, that´s how Poker works and people tend to forget it.

There are some situations you can check strong hands and will be the best approach, for example you have QQ playing 40 bbs 3bet OOP 8bbs + call and the flop comes Q85 with 32bbs left and a 2 - 3 Stack pot ratio. On this situation you dont need to bet 3times to get all the money from the other guy so you must check with this hand, if you have 100bbs it´s probably better to bet 30% to start growing the pot (betting middle range as well using the same size).

Preflop for example facing a 3bet (100bbs) you dont want to do a call3bet with AA but you will want to do that call having 40bbs most of the times because of the stack pot ratio you will have on the flop.

As a general advise I recomend you to bet not taking too much care about protecting your checks otherwise you will stop making money from middle ranges and that´s way more important.