CREV Hand Analysis vs ChaoRen
Posted by Kevin Rabichow
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Thanks !!!!! What a fantastic series. What do we have for next ?
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@25:51, why is QQ a valuebet against the realistic defending ranges if he calls with worse <50% (47% to be exact) of the time and we never b/c this combo? maybe I'm missing something but checking seems to be higher EV (checking is .68*5107 or 3488), while betting is only 3013 for this betsize.
Hah, I don't know how I overlooked this. I suppose the organization of line preference holds up, because the EV of checking is higher than any obtainable EV in the line where we size .75pot on the turn. That said, this was kind of silly.
Noteworthy: this seems to also be the case a few minutes later, when I say we can bet the Th river after going .75 pot on turn. It's very close to breakeven with checking behind.
Hi, Kevin!
I like the way you simplify the approximations by how people will actually play and for the alternative view I ran this hand on PioSolver to see how it should play by gto.
Don't know if it actually gives us gto answers :)
Preflop range for opp as you specified
Than I entered turn bet sizes as 75 and 144%
The suggested play was to overbet this spot 25% of time and do not make regular size bet basically.
Although we see that vs well ballanced opponent we will not gain much with overbet vs regular size bet - less than one bb usually. Here are pics for QQ and 44:
Opp should fold 64% and surprisingly call almost all A2-A5 !
It's interesting that system suggested not to bet KT without fd and for example to bet only like half of QT hands.
But I think I would bet KT here too because I feel most people will underdefend :) (will fold A2-A5)
Although you mentioned that you can bet bigger sizing on river if your range have bigger equity.
Just curious why is it because I thought that we could bet any amount if we properly balance our range?
I think you maybe made the mistake of giving flop ranges when actually you should've given the turn ranges, since you're running the sim from the turn.
Have fun giving the turn ranges though :D Or you can just run the sim from flop, then go with the gto ranges from the turn, but in this case turn ranges will differ from the ones in Kevin's tree.
Ohh, you're right :) Will try to fix a bit later :)
Great answer to the question. Hope you can continue making those even tough they doesn't seem as popular as live play.
Great video, safe to say ill need to watch it a few more times. I was/am often wondering about how the min defense freq should be adjusted on earlier streets given the equity our "bluffing" hands have against villains range and villains equity against our "value" hands, etc. Stuff that you mentioned in the video. It would be cool if you could talk more about this type of stuff,
Thanks !
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