Welcome to Triangulum: Comparing Stakes: $.25/$.50 and $.50/$1 6-Max NLHE
Posted by Peter Clarke
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I'd love to see how much the two stakes are different in terms of the winrate. Do you have any students who play both stakes so you could share the difference in the winrate in terms of bb/100?
I think it's quite hard to gather reliable data on this front due to the natural fluctuation in winrate over non-massive samples. I also think mental game stresses of moving up tend to distort the picture. Maybe some RIO members who have made this transition can share some of their data?
You just keep getting better Pete. i really enjoyed this video. I think it would be great to
hear your post analysis of that A9 hand. i think BTN 3b is a polar strat. I think on the flop BTN has positional and range advantage and range bet the flop. on the turn i think
the over bet was more protection orientated .
Kx , 76, 88 maybe middle pp's .im not sure what bluffs they have here?
i think A9cc is a fold but A5cc could be a call. If the turn was an Ace would that of made a difference? thanks as always for the great content.
Glad you enjoyed this one.
There are some very presumptious and inaccurate statements in your thought process, in my opinion. Generally we should read overbets as quite the opposite of protection, which tends to favour a smaller sizing to achieve its modest aim of folding out weak hands with some equity. You should treat overbets as polarized and should certainly not make them for mainly protective reasons.
If we turn an ace we have much better SDV and removal to Villain's value range, and are probably too far up our range to fold now even to an overbet, but I'm not 100% sure on this without PIO analysis.
I noticed that on the 100NL table @ 31:10 you completed from SB with a weak hand vs a fishy player, reasoning that he'd likely let you see a high % of flops for free. Makes sense, and presumably people are better at defending their BB at that stake, but generally in Zoom isn't it better to steal instead of complete since players will fold their weak hands more often, knowing that they can just move onto the next hand instantly? A Zoom-specific adjustment, in other words.
Against tighter recreationals, this is certainly true, especially due to rake. Vs. stationy passives it's probably still better to peek at flops with semi-trash than to make larger pre-flop investments. Just because the general Rec population folds more in zoom than in regular games does not entail that every rec type folds enough to a steal to make raising better than limping. I think it all depends on the nature of the recreational.
thanks for the correction Pete my thinking was that if villain had a strong made hand it would be +EV to price out a flush draw but after reading your reply i realize that's an error in thought process. thanks for taking the time to explain its appreciated.
edit: betting for protection is to fold out weak hands that would fold to a small bet and deny equity. what about over betting to price out draws like flushes when Villain hold a str8 or trips i guess its more +EV to let them draw and increase the pot as they wont make their flush more often than they do. i see players doing this. i realize long term EV its not a strong play.
Hi Pete. Nice vid. At 21:21. You bet twice on KK2J against two tight guys out of position. You show a lot of strength. Do you think they would call again with hands like 99 or AJ? Just a naive question. I'm not playing these stakes. Edit : I've just seen there is one guy with a "recreational" 15 dollars stack. My bad.
Love the name reads Peter - good punctuation = reggy --- sloppy = degen :D
In terms of BB defence frequency you advocate tightening up at 50, looks something like removing the bottom 10%? I guess there are a couple of lines of reasoning here - more rake at 50 therefore we shouldn't be able to defend as much but then I expect players to play worse on average and there should be more scope for exploiting their leaks (passivity, etc.). In terms of hourly what do you think the meta is?
Love the conceptual idea of this video, would like more like this - but perhaps looking at it from a db standpoint? Keep up the good work mate!
Yep I can certainly do some population analysis in a futue video from a DB standpoint - nice idea.
It is true that players playin badly will bring the EV of defending back up again after we reduce it for rake. Another point here is that if a hand is very borderline to defend we are perhaps better off folding, because even if we don't lose money by playing the hand, we do lose time, which can be spent playing in higher EV spots; this is especially true in zoom games.
If you tag a player on Pokerstars while the hand just finished and is zooming to the next hand, it sometimes incorrectly adds the label to a random player on the next table. You can re-label yourself by watching a replay of a hand and right clicking on your name.
I know because I've labelled myself as a fish before. Maybe that's Pokerstars trying to tell me something
I've done this many times as well - only seems to happen with the Fish tag!
I'm sure you know this already but if you have a hand where you use all your timebank, if you close the table and open another, it resets your timebank to 30 seconds. I feel that would help in these videos if you use it all and need the extra time to chat things through later.
This is something I always forget to do. Thanks for the tip :-)
Great video. It's extremely impressive how concisely you can explain your thought process so quickly while never missing a spot.
Thank you, it comes from years of having a constant internal monlogue. Not sure how healthy this is in real life!
Great video, I’m thinking of moving up to 100nl zoom. I’ve been building a bankroll again playing 25nl zoom and now 50nl zoom winning at 10.6bb/100EV over 30k hands (about 70% are from 50nl). Do you think I should be confident enough to move up?
You're really well spoken!
Man watching this video made me realize how much I still don't know. Which is frustrating, but also a very good thing. Especially regarding adjusting to players and making reads on opponents
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