I think this is reasonable with the view that population is never folding Qx+ but often folding weaker stuff regardless of sizing. It would also allow the betting of more Qx hands in theory too.
I liked the discussion and the focus on when and why we find ways to ignore our own thought processes in spite of having a good feel for the best play in a spot.
Brilliant discussion on how that part of the chemical cocktail that is our brain will argue a convincing case for taking an illogical action.
The untrained poker mind can be blind to the obvious and at the same time blind to its own blindness. How can we become more self aware? How can we develop a voice that says “I object your honour” to lawyer tilt? I guess we need to develop another lawyer to plead a case for logic? This could get expensive!
Mental game work is very often a matrer of the player conquering the beast within. The hardest thing to control is our own subconsious mind and sadly he's the guy that likes to tilt.
Hey Peter, I have a question. You seem to have done a lot of coaching, what would you say are the biggest leaks people you coach, trying to climb 10nl zoom, up to 50nl zoom are doing, and what would be the best fix for those leaks?
This is a huge question and would probably take a book to answer properly. I would say a few of the most common ones would be betting for poor reasons at an EV loss, not protecting an OOP checking range on the flop and failing to find good spots to overfold your range. The fixes for these are to get better at poker!
Thank you for replying!! Instead of writing a book, can you do a tl;dr quick summary of the key leaks, and potential fixes xD Hey, maybe even do a video about it.
I think you need a better explanation or provide evidence on why he is wrong. I thought he explained it well that the villan has an uncapped range, making us lose a ton of money to nutted hands and getting few calls from worse hands. But if you can prove with calculations, I would be interested in seeing.
Having an overbet range is correct. It occurs roughly a 20% freq (never with this hand) in a strategy where you check 70% range oop on this board (where co range although less nutted is also less diluted). Implementing a strategy with 3 sizings vs population might be overkill. In my UTG vs button sims similar flop after cbetting 30% freq we overbet AJ JJ 66 and mix AA with mostly checking and some blocking. AK is mostly a block and checking 30%. AQ always a check.
Starting off with a rangebet our turn betting freq will be like 10-15% using an overbet strategy (my guess). So if you start off flop with even a moderate cbet freq and want to valuebet AQ+ for over half pot on the turn having no overbets makes sense.
If you listen to what peter says he is more so building a justifiable fairly optimal strategy around the hand in question. The main takeaway Is regardless of strat AK is never an overbet. And most likely if you want to bet AQ for value after a flop range bet most of your sets are going to want to find themselves either protecting our checks (AA) or protecting our 2/3 sizing.
I would like to see a similar series based around mid pocket pairs. When to stick with them and when to get away from them post flop when we don't flop our set primarily. And how much we should be willing to pay to flop sets pre flop in a variety of situations. I feel like thats an area that is probably a leak for me, which ties somewhat into the theme of this series, and this video in particular. I feel like those are some post flop spots where my brain ends up being more concerned with "do I come off too fishy/stationish or too nitty by calling or folding a mid PP on a board like this" rather than, "what is the +EV play here based on what I know about my villain thus far, and the population in general"
Last hand on the turn we have 1 out to straight flush draw. Given the fact we get the stack on river for this outcome does this change turn fold to a call. Also agree with raising flop. What size raise is best. .? I think to 4.50 then commit on any turn. Does that sound ok?
41:00: Isn't this a jam for hero? I think, villian will call with all AA, AK, KJs (16 combos we beat) and JJ, KK, ATs (sometimes), T9s (rare) (~10 combos we lose to). Am I missing something in my thoughtprocess?
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31:15... Could we bet 1/2 to continue bluffing on this turn?
I think this is reasonable with the view that population is never folding Qx+ but often folding weaker stuff regardless of sizing. It would also allow the betting of more Qx hands in theory too.
I liked the discussion and the focus on when and why we find ways to ignore our own thought processes in spite of having a good feel for the best play in a spot.
Thanks, I find this is one of the more common types of tilt at the microstakes.
Shoutout strawberry milk :)
Is that you? I'll let Cem know to be afraid.
Brilliant discussion on how that part of the chemical cocktail that is our brain will argue a convincing case for taking an illogical action.
The untrained poker mind can be blind to the obvious and at the same time blind to its own blindness. How can we become more self aware? How can we develop a voice that says “I object your honour” to lawyer tilt? I guess we need to develop another lawyer to plead a case for logic? This could get expensive!
Mental game work is very often a matrer of the player conquering the beast within. The hardest thing to control is our own subconsious mind and sadly he's the guy that likes to tilt.
Really like this. First hand discussion was abit long but good tempo in the rest of the video.
I agree :-)
Thanks for the feedback and I agree. We will try to move faster in future installments of the series.
Yay, the audio is great
Audio should be permanelty fixed on videos now. I've made a few upgrades to my set up.
Hey Peter, I have a question. You seem to have done a lot of coaching, what would you say are the biggest leaks people you coach, trying to climb 10nl zoom, up to 50nl zoom are doing, and what would be the best fix for those leaks?
Great idea!
This is a huge question and would probably take a book to answer properly. I would say a few of the most common ones would be betting for poor reasons at an EV loss, not protecting an OOP checking range on the flop and failing to find good spots to overfold your range. The fixes for these are to get better at poker!
We have to get him to answer!!
Thank you for replying!! Instead of writing a book, can you do a tl;dr quick summary of the key leaks, and potential fixes xD Hey, maybe even do a video about it.
Anyways, have a good one
14:20 no true at all, you should have overbet range on that turn for sure..
I think you need a better explanation or provide evidence on why he is wrong. I thought he explained it well that the villan has an uncapped range, making us lose a ton of money to nutted hands and getting few calls from worse hands. But if you can prove with calculations, I would be interested in seeing.
Having an overbet range is correct. It occurs roughly a 20% freq (never with this hand) in a strategy where you check 70% range oop on this board (where co range although less nutted is also less diluted). Implementing a strategy with 3 sizings vs population might be overkill. In my UTG vs button sims similar flop after cbetting 30% freq we overbet AJ JJ 66 and mix AA with mostly checking and some blocking. AK is mostly a block and checking 30%. AQ always a check.
Starting off with a rangebet our turn betting freq will be like 10-15% using an overbet strategy (my guess). So if you start off flop with even a moderate cbet freq and want to valuebet AQ+ for over half pot on the turn having no overbets makes sense.
If you listen to what peter says he is more so building a justifiable fairly optimal strategy around the hand in question. The main takeaway Is regardless of strat AK is never an overbet. And most likely if you want to bet AQ for value after a flop range bet most of your sets are going to want to find themselves either protecting our checks (AA) or protecting our 2/3 sizing.
i was not saying that particular hand was overbet on turn.. i was just saying that you should have overbet range on that turn :)
Very Very good video! TY
I would like to see a similar series based around mid pocket pairs. When to stick with them and when to get away from them post flop when we don't flop our set primarily. And how much we should be willing to pay to flop sets pre flop in a variety of situations. I feel like thats an area that is probably a leak for me, which ties somewhat into the theme of this series, and this video in particular. I feel like those are some post flop spots where my brain ends up being more concerned with "do I come off too fishy/stationish or too nitty by calling or folding a mid PP on a board like this" rather than, "what is the +EV play here based on what I know about my villain thus far, and the population in general"
Last hand on the turn we have 1 out to straight flush draw. Given the fact we get the stack on river for this outcome does this change turn fold to a call. Also agree with raising flop. What size raise is best. .? I think to 4.50 then commit on any turn. Does that sound ok?
41:00: Isn't this a jam for hero? I think, villian will call with all AA, AK, KJs (16 combos we beat) and JJ, KK, ATs (sometimes), T9s (rare) (~10 combos we lose to). Am I missing something in my thoughtprocess?
I'd say its a big assumption villain is bet calling AA and AK on that river with a high frequency.
the KQ hand in sb vs bb, is c/shoving the river an option? when we make top two?
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