I add limps before the CO, then just opening and defending slightly wider as well. Post flop we can cbet slightly more frequently as the pfr as the defence range widens more than the raising range especially vs BB in srp
Did you put in a lot of extra study specific to ante games in order to play in them, or did you just apply these broad heuristics to what you already knew from non-ante games and were ready to go?
Did you put in a lot of extra study specific to ante games in order to play in them, or did you just apply these broad heuristics to what you already knew from non-ante games and were ready to go?
Had a quick look at ranges but was mostly just thinking about heuristics and noting down how I wanted to adjust my strats for the games before hopping in
Given his amazing price on calling, the size he goes, and the position I limp from his iso range should be extremely tight there, honestly think 88 could be indifferent 100bb eff
What did you make of the ISO size here? Do you think this is their standard ISO sizing? If not, then how will your respond differently?
Sorry missed this initially, good sizes would be between 4.5-5.5bb imo, 7.5bb is far too large given the strength of the ep limp range and the fact that im (hopefully) not a fish.
We basically just continue far tighter vs this size and call more speculative style hands like SCs, also limp re-raising only super nutted value and more blocker style bluffs, JJ would never limp 3b vs this size for example but AQo might, whereas vs a wider smaller range AQo becomes a better call and JJ should be strong enough to sometimes 4b
you talked about hacing a limp strat. Do you feel it adds quite a bit of complexity to your overall strat?
Yes definitely adds complexity, however I’ve seen even very good players making massive mistakes vs it and so am definitely keeping with it
7:30 do you have a lot of flats from the co? Is that just a functuon of the rake and/or ante at 2k?
Yes decent amount of flats in CO more the ante the the rake but both contribute
34:10 table 1 tt I know you didn't like the fold of tt but tt will likely go indifferent on the turn once the jam comes, corrrect?
Yes but we’re near the top of our range and getting an unbelievable price on a call vs a villain I have no reads on at relatively high stakes (therefore they’re likely capable f bluff 3b’ing flop), we’re opening ourselves up to getting run over with folds like this. At lower stakes or in a less tough game, even with some small reads, this fold could be ok but not in this scenario imo
I saw you went with the large 10BB 3bet on the BTN here and its what the GTOWizard sims show also. Any idea why the 3bet sizing is so large? How do you think people react to such a large sizing compared to how they should respond?
Usually BTN 3b is bigger than other positions as you’re doing a bit f flatting and therefore are more polar with your 3bets, with an ante in there you’re doing a lot more flatting and so are even more polarised with the 3bs, and so want to go very big
How do you think people react to such a large sizing compared to how they should respond?
Difficult to say how they respond in practice as most people aren’t that well studied in ante structures, but they should do more polar 4betting with a slightly smaller size relative to the 3b size, again given the polar nature of our 3b range
4:30 You considered a donk CO vs BTN 3BP OOP PFC on J98hh. After XC33 on the flop you just checked the turn. Is the turn J98-Q not a card you want to donk on?
31:00 You get upset with yourself about this play where you limp called a 5bb iso preflop then XR the flop. The quality of the video makes it impossible to tell what your XR size was, then you folded to a 3bet. I don't really hate the fold. Seems like it can go either way where villain has JJ+ or some A4s type hands that 3bet. Not sure if they find 3bet bluffs here. What would the bluffs be?
4:30 You considered a donk CO vs BTN 3BP OOP PFC on J98hh. After XC33 on the flop you just checked the turn. Is the turn J98-Q not a card you want to donk on?
Potentially with range, but not with hand I think. We’re potentially folding out all worse and getting called by all better by donking turn
The quality of the video makes it impossible to tell what your XR size was, then you folded to a 3bet.
Raise size was 27% pot, so pretty small. It’s designed to put the overcard style hands in an indifferent spot whilst also getting lots of value vs the lower pairs.
Not sure if they find 3bet bluffs here. What would the bluffs be?
At lower stakes I’d agree but 2knl online is pretty tough these days so I’d expect them to find them. Without looking it up I’d say the best bluffs come from the T9s-QJs with bdfd region
1) AT doesn’t have much showdown given we’ve opened EP to 2.5bb, we have two overs to a 9, lastly we can get better A highs to fold and even get called by some worse draws though thirds last factors are a bit of a stretch. Additionally, gives us a nice hand to bluff on rivers like a K or J where we otherwise wouldn’t have many natural bluffs in the delay bet line.
2) Anything between 25-66% probably fine but I prefer the 30-40% pot region to smaller or bigger, just preference though
07:06 you flatted A4s COvUTG. I understand with 7-handed/ante/lower rake structure all incentivize us to flat, but from what position will you start flatting and how wide will you flat? As we will always facing sqz if there's aggro regs behind.
Could you break down a little bit more on why riv sizing is good for bluffing this combo?
He has no relevant blockers to calling range if he goes big so doesn’t want to do that with this hand. Usually for an overbet bluff on a board like this you want a card such as a 9 or a middling spade as the BB is likely to bluffcatch a pair with those side cards even vs a large bet
Looking back on the hand I think 25% totally reasonable, if the riv is something like a 4 then I think the 10% size is better, our size basically wants to be designed around making A hi indifferent
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Callum,
What are the main adjustments you make when playing in an ante game vs a standard non ante game?
Thanks
I add limps before the CO, then just opening and defending slightly wider as well. Post flop we can cbet slightly more frequently as the pfr as the defence range widens more than the raising range especially vs BB in srp
Did you put in a lot of extra study specific to ante games in order to play in them, or did you just apply these broad heuristics to what you already knew from non-ante games and were ready to go?
Had a quick look at ranges but was mostly just thinking about heuristics and noting down how I wanted to adjust my strats for the games before hopping in
Callum,
Great video. Always enjoy your work.
Thanks again Callum
Thanks!
im a poker historian, this hand at ~5:00 would've been the first time in history someone limp folded 88 to a single raise IP while wearing a tank top
Hahahaha brilliant!
Given his amazing price on calling, the size he goes, and the position I limp from his iso range should be extremely tight there, honestly think 88 could be indifferent 100bb eff
What did you make of the ISO size here? Do you think this is their standard ISO sizing? If not, then how will your respond differently?
Sorry missed this initially, good sizes would be between 4.5-5.5bb imo, 7.5bb is far too large given the strength of the ep limp range and the fact that im (hopefully) not a fish.
We basically just continue far tighter vs this size and call more speculative style hands like SCs, also limp re-raising only super nutted value and more blocker style bluffs, JJ would never limp 3b vs this size for example but AQo might, whereas vs a wider smaller range AQo becomes a better call and JJ should be strong enough to sometimes 4b
23:00
Bangkok to London? Hahaha
Something like that haha
Was much warmer in the first half :D
Got a lot out of this.
4:30 you talked about hacing a limp strat. Do you feel it adds quite a bit of complexity to your overall strat?
7:30 do you have a lot of flats from the co? Is that just a functuon of the rake and/or ante at 2k?
34:10 table 1 tt I know you didn't like the fold of tt but tt will likely go indifferent on the turn once the jam comes, corrrect?
Thanks!
Glad you found it useful :)
Yes definitely adds complexity, however I’ve seen even very good players making massive mistakes vs it and so am definitely keeping with it
Yes decent amount of flats in CO more the ante the the rake but both contribute
Yes but we’re near the top of our range and getting an unbelievable price on a call vs a villain I have no reads on at relatively high stakes (therefore they’re likely capable f bluff 3b’ing flop), we’re opening ourselves up to getting run over with folds like this. At lower stakes or in a less tough game, even with some small reads, this fold could be ok but not in this scenario imo
I saw you went with the large 10BB 3bet on the BTN here and its what the GTOWizard sims show also. Any idea why the 3bet sizing is so large? How do you think people react to such a large sizing compared to how they should respond?
Usually BTN 3b is bigger than other positions as you’re doing a bit f flatting and therefore are more polar with your 3bets, with an ante in there you’re doing a lot more flatting and so are even more polarised with the 3bs, and so want to go very big
Difficult to say how they respond in practice as most people aren’t that well studied in ante structures, but they should do more polar 4betting with a slightly smaller size relative to the 3b size, again given the polar nature of our 3b range
4:30 You considered a donk CO vs BTN 3BP OOP PFC on J98hh. After XC33 on the flop you just checked the turn. Is the turn J98-Q not a card you want to donk on?
31:00 You get upset with yourself about this play where you limp called a 5bb iso preflop then XR the flop. The quality of the video makes it impossible to tell what your XR size was, then you folded to a 3bet. I don't really hate the fold. Seems like it can go either way where villain has JJ+ or some A4s type hands that 3bet. Not sure if they find 3bet bluffs here. What would the bluffs be?
Potentially with range, but not with hand I think. We’re potentially folding out all worse and getting called by all better by donking turn
Raise size was 27% pot, so pretty small. It’s designed to put the overcard style hands in an indifferent spot whilst also getting lots of value vs the lower pairs.
At lower stakes I’d agree but 2knl online is pretty tough these days so I’d expect them to find them. Without looking it up I’d say the best bluffs come from the T9s-QJs with bdfd region
Hey Callum!
01:15
you said "BVB 3p IP not doing too much with the 7/4/5 kickers - doing it more with the 6/2" curious what are the reasons solver going with this?
Honestly I don’t really know, mostly I like to understand the why but this is an exception where I just memorise
05:43 you mentioned you really like AT here as a delayed.
1) Any particular reason? 2) What sizing schemes are you using for delay cb here?
1) AT doesn’t have much showdown given we’ve opened EP to 2.5bb, we have two overs to a 9, lastly we can get better A highs to fold and even get called by some worse draws though thirds last factors are a bit of a stretch. Additionally, gives us a nice hand to bluff on rivers like a K or J where we otherwise wouldn’t have many natural bluffs in the delay bet line.
2) Anything between 25-66% probably fine but I prefer the 30-40% pot region to smaller or bigger, just preference though
07:06 you flatted A4s COvUTG. I understand with 7-handed/ante/lower rake structure all incentivize us to flat, but from what position will you start flatting and how wide will you flat? As we will always facing sqz if there's aggro regs behind.
CO earliest position I have flats even in ante game, unless other factors are present such as a recreational in the BB.
15:20 top right -
you said you like his hand selection & sizing on all streets and change his tag to maybe not regs :P
Could you break down a little bit more on why riv sizing is good for bluffing this combo?
He has no relevant blockers to calling range if he goes big so doesn’t want to do that with this hand. Usually for an overbet bluff on a board like this you want a card such as a 9 or a middling spade as the BB is likely to bluffcatch a pair with those side cards even vs a large bet
21:28 top right you said we should do 10% here and should probably do it every single time
reason for not using a slightly larger block like b25?
Looking back on the hand I think 25% totally reasonable, if the riv is something like a 4 then I think the 10% size is better, our size basically wants to be designed around making A hi indifferent
hey Callum great video man thank you
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