Calling 3Bets in Big Pots
Posted by Tyler Forrester
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Nice video thx Tyler!
Would also appreciate this video but with hero as 3better.
8:40 for SB, I find it hard to come up with bluffs in this spot, other than 78s.
What do you think are hands that make sense for SB to play as bet bet bet bluffs ?
Yes indeed A2s,A4s make sense
Thanks Bingo! I appreciate the kind words!
Essentially any two overcards to the jack can be a breakeven to slightly profitable bluff. If we aren't paying attention to card removal, our natural fold frequencies will be too high on the river.
Don't we prefer Ax's over any two overs to the J as bluff candidates for SB, since we would prefer to block AJ and rather target KJ/QJ?
KJ and Qj are going to be mixed calls at equilibrium and qq is an always call, since KQ is the hand with two overcards without an ace, it has better properties than either A7 or A4 which nothing block folding hands (77, 44).
Deleted my comment cause I did not want to clutter the thread. But..yea..I believe so...good blocker too.
So we are trying to fold out pairs lower than top pair on turn and on river the top of range we are trying to fold out is x percent of the qj, kj combos? Cause I assume we are not barreling turn with dirty outs that often are dominated by the top pair combos? On turn we have some overcard to lower pairs as outs...on river we have the best blockers. The more streets we bet the higher up in villain`s range of course get.
I hope I have understood it correct. :)
Great Questions!
Most players don't overfold the turn and river on this board texture in position, but if they did on the turn, we'd be trying to fold random overcards that floated, 88-TTs and maybe if our opponent is the weak tight of weak tight JT and QJ.
On the river assuming that the player calls the turn at quasi optimal frequencies, we'd be targeting AJ, KJ, QJ to fold along with underpairs and pairs+draws.
We generally like overcards or draws to bluff with on the turn, because T9 type hands block significant portions of the folding ranges on turn and 7x, 4x hands do the same the on the river.
Not good to have favorites but I feel like I learn so much from you man. What is your 3-bet calling range on BTN vs SB? Your 3-bet percentage is 6.1%? Do you agree a good rule of thumb is that your PFR should be 70% of your VPIP (which it is exactly in your case)? Haha.
Thanks so much, man.
I'm going to pass on the exact range, because of the public forum. A better way to look at PFR and VPIP is positionally. Having extra money in the pot makes calling much more attractive and having extra players behind makes calling less attractive.
Hey Tyler great video man thank you
Thanks Truepower!
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