Seems unlikely at this point as I'm 14/16 so it's gonna take some serious run good. That being said, I haven't been all in an covered since day 1 and I'm sure that's not the case for most of these guys so maybe the universe will bail me out a few times and we can make a run out of it.
In all seriousness though the plan is to focus on mostly theory videos with a short non theory series to split up each chunk of related theory videos. So I'll be wrapping up this series (3 total videos) and then doing a theory series ( likely 5 ish videos). After that if you'd like some live hand histories for a 2-3 part series as the next sort of separator between theory concepts instead of an online review I'd be happy to do that.
I think I'd like to see that 99 hand broken down more as that's a spot where I feel lost when I pick up some marginal hands and would like to see what the cutoff is for going with them in certain situations.
At 12:05 you shove A8o sb vs bb for 21bb effective. Can you elaborate as to what your options are here and why you chose shove? Clearly a shove is +EV but it seems like a bad risk/reward scenario. Do you employ a limping strategy here? Are we only jamming small pairs/Ax/Bdwy, limping scs, and raising big pairs/AQ+? If so does this leave us exploitable and face up? Is limp calling ever an option?
Just curious as to what your strategy is here and what factors go into making the shove decision. If you had 25bb/30bb/etc how would your strategy change or what factors would you have to take into account?
16:39 (AK overbet) - When you overbet AK on A93J (2400 into 1200) what bluffs do you have in this spot? Shouldn't we be more inclined to overbet when we have a lot of bluffs in our range? With no fd's present and such a dry board (only draws are bd gutters/qt) is this a good spot to overbet?
Hey guys I'm back from Dublin so I can get to some of these now.
@ Multiple people. I will definitely look at the 99 spot in the future. It's not in the next video because I had to make that before leaving for dublin. Hopefully i can wrap this up in part 3 and then tack on the 99 at the end or perhaps I'll make a stand alone video of the 99 hand and any hands from part 2 people find interesting as a part 4 (if the review takes most of part 3)
I can't really go into a full sb strat vs bb in a post as you can appreciate it.
The short answer is that as you mentioned shoving is +EV.
It's around this stack size where I start limping. I pretty much just shove for like 15bbs (as people are overfolding). I think people continue to overfold vs shoves up to ~20bbs so that combined with the blocker makes me want to shove.
Additionally, my hand does not so well when it goes x/x. (i mean, it's a good hand so it will do not too badly, but villain is Ax deficient so hes mostly folding on the Axx boards I hit and my hand doesn't really provide barreling opportunities on other boardsso it does worse than it "should" (based on it's equity.) I'd much rather have KJs or QJs (which has similarish equity vs checkback range but plays significantly better).
I don't have a raising strat thats < AI here. I just limp or jam at these stack depths so my scs are protected by my big pairs.
It's going to leave me exploitable but it's as an exploit to people over folding (so it's fine)
Not sure if you mean limp/calling an option with any part of our range or A8 specifically. The answer to the first question is yes, the answer to the 2nd is obviously it depends on his shoving range. People dont jam here wide enough in my experience so while its probably still +EV its less +EV than shoving.
As stacks get deeper my limping range becomes wider (because I can shove less). If villain is overfolding I'd develop a raising range (not a shoving range to be clear).
RE: AK yea, I have straight draws here. It's more appealing on fd turns certainly but it still works here. People in mtts don't fold enough and theres a lot of ego/dickswinging going on so I think it's still fine.
Thanks for the response Chris. I think the most interesting point of analysis in all of this is analyzing limp/calling or reraising vs jamming sb vs bb w/ a hand like A8 21bb deep. I'm going to check this out in CREV later but against certain opponents I feel limp/calling could be a decent option. Clearly by jamming A8o we're not getting better to fold as we're most likely getting called by all pairs, A9+. If we limp we give villian's an option to leverage their stack and raise/fold garbage hands like 94o. We also get worse Ax to shove and some broadways as well (i.e. if villian has QJ he's going to fold to a shove but shove himself a decent amount). Yes some of the time we're going to lose a pot we could have won when villian limps behind but that should be countered by the times we win postflop and risk much less to do so.
Hey Chris, I've been watching your videos for some time now and since now you switched discipline I wonder what you think is more profitable. Cashgame or MTT?
there really isnt an answer to that @ Cloud. Cash provides a reasonably steady income, mtts provide the opporuntity to win piles but frequently result in you losing for ~a year or longer.
if youre talking about which is profitable in terms of just where your edge is biggest then clearly mtts are softer. There are plenty of regs in that EPT main event field I wouldn't bet on to beat 25NL zoom and clearly in terms of relative stakes thats way further up the mtt ladder than 25NL is up the cash ladder.
Thanks for the quick answer. Even though you say there isn't an answer the logic you are giving here is pretty straight forward: MTTs are more profitable because with the same amount of commitment and quality of work a tournament player can compete in higher games (hence win more) than a cash player.
I'm a winning reg at cashgames but I was always considering if I should switch to or mix MTTs because they seem so soft comparably. Perhaps that would be the wisest choice (and I guess that's also why you decided to switch).
i mean I still play a fair bit of cash. I just added mtts on sundays/COOPS/some live events to increase EV but keep the cash around to decrease variance.
The biggest fear of pure mtts is that you can just run horribly for a long time (by effectively running selectively bad at the deep parts of the mtts).
Nice one, in a vacuum I'm probably not calling the jam in the AQo squeezed spot vs utg and definitely folding the 99s pre, do you think I'm missing out on too much ev?
Hi, @30:30, you reshove a 16bbs AI w/TT when you have the utg+1 PFR on the hand. What is the range of villian who shoves? is this and standart movement with 30 bbs and a PFR from early? (sorry I'm new on MTTs)
I'd like you elaborate maybe in a futur video on the spot at 25:00.
AQo reshove, on my side I would have never jam but maybe I miss something. I did some calculation on HRC and it is a very marginal spot especially for your tournament life no? what would be the bottom of your range here?
AQo is the bottom of my range here unless villain is a known clown in which case Id use AJs. The spot is definitely close.
Unfortunately I've already made the final video for this series so if you want more details about this hand I'd recommend continuing to play around with it in HRC
Enjoyed the video Chris. I have a question: In the AQo hand you mentioned that people behind are going to stack off about 7 percent of the time each, on the conservative side. Where did you get this 7 percent from? Is it with regards to beating AQo in particular, or in general they wake up with a hand worthy of stacking off after this action? Seems like useful info for future.
Hi enjoyed this one, GJ!
At 22:35 Why do you think it is a bad 3bet spot? I guess low Axs are better candidates there, but do not mind doing it with this combo either against a wide CO orange. But in theory I guess when we choose also lower Axo combos for 3bet light we will be overfolding to 4bet jams?
At 31:00 I presume you are 3bet/folding AQo there?And calling only BB shove?
26:00 When you say he has no fold equity anymore, do you mean with respect to the hand we are in? That he can't make people fold over the top of the other shove as much as he could do with the same chips by open shoving them himself/herself?
Or do you mean if he loses he has less FE after the fact?
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nice one...GL at EPT dublin tom!
sigh... looks like i have to watch how crushed i got on the Final Table :p
Thanks for the video
next video on your hand history winning ept dublin?
Seems unlikely at this point as I'm 14/16 so it's gonna take some serious run good. That being said, I haven't been all in an covered since day 1 and I'm sure that's not the case for most of these guys so maybe the universe will bail me out a few times and we can make a run out of it.
In all seriousness though the plan is to focus on mostly theory videos with a short non theory series to split up each chunk of related theory videos. So I'll be wrapping up this series (3 total videos) and then doing a theory series ( likely 5 ish videos). After that if you'd like some live hand histories for a 2-3 part series as the next sort of separator between theory concepts instead of an online review I'd be happy to do that.
Hi Chris,
Great video and GL at EPT Dublin!
I think I'd like to see that 99 hand broken down more as that's a spot where I feel lost when I pick up some marginal hands and would like to see what the cutoff is for going with them in certain situations.
on the way to getting out of that downswing bud!
+1
interested on the 99 as well
Hey guys I'm still on my phone from Dublin. I get back late next week so I'll get to comments in some detail then.
At 12:05 you shove A8o sb vs bb for 21bb effective. Can you elaborate as to what your options are here and why you chose shove? Clearly a shove is +EV but it seems like a bad risk/reward scenario. Do you employ a limping strategy here? Are we only jamming small pairs/Ax/Bdwy, limping scs, and raising big pairs/AQ+? If so does this leave us exploitable and face up? Is limp calling ever an option?
Just curious as to what your strategy is here and what factors go into making the shove decision. If you had 25bb/30bb/etc how would your strategy change or what factors would you have to take into account?
16:39 (AK overbet) - When you overbet AK on A93J (2400 into 1200) what bluffs do you have in this spot? Shouldn't we be more inclined to overbet when we have a lot of bluffs in our range? With no fd's present and such a dry board (only draws are bd gutters/qt) is this a good spot to overbet?
very nice.waiting for the next with 99 hand!! :)
Hey guys I'm back from Dublin so I can get to some of these now.
@ Multiple people. I will definitely look at the 99 spot in the future. It's not in the next video because I had to make that before leaving for dublin. Hopefully i can wrap this up in part 3 and then tack on the 99 at the end or perhaps I'll make a stand alone video of the 99 hand and any hands from part 2 people find interesting as a part 4 (if the review takes most of part 3)
@Tiny elvis.
I can't really go into a full sb strat vs bb in a post as you can appreciate it.
The short answer is that as you mentioned shoving is +EV.
It's around this stack size where I start limping. I pretty much just shove for like 15bbs (as people are overfolding). I think people continue to overfold vs shoves up to ~20bbs so that combined with the blocker makes me want to shove.
Additionally, my hand does not so well when it goes x/x. (i mean, it's a good hand so it will do not too badly, but villain is Ax deficient so hes mostly folding on the Axx boards I hit and my hand doesn't really provide barreling opportunities on other boardsso it does worse than it "should" (based on it's equity.) I'd much rather have KJs or QJs (which has similarish equity vs checkback range but plays significantly better).
I don't have a raising strat thats < AI here. I just limp or jam at these stack depths so my scs are protected by my big pairs.
It's going to leave me exploitable but it's as an exploit to people over folding (so it's fine)
Not sure if you mean limp/calling an option with any part of our range or A8 specifically. The answer to the first question is yes, the answer to the 2nd is obviously it depends on his shoving range. People dont jam here wide enough in my experience so while its probably still +EV its less +EV than shoving.
As stacks get deeper my limping range becomes wider (because I can shove less). If villain is overfolding I'd develop a raising range (not a shoving range to be clear).
RE: AK yea, I have straight draws here. It's more appealing on fd turns certainly but it still works here. People in mtts don't fold enough and theres a lot of ego/dickswinging going on so I think it's still fine.
Thanks for the response Chris. I think the most interesting point of analysis in all of this is analyzing limp/calling or reraising vs jamming sb vs bb w/ a hand like A8 21bb deep. I'm going to check this out in CREV later but against certain opponents I feel limp/calling could be a decent option. Clearly by jamming A8o we're not getting better to fold as we're most likely getting called by all pairs, A9+. If we limp we give villian's an option to leverage their stack and raise/fold garbage hands like 94o. We also get worse Ax to shove and some broadways as well (i.e. if villian has QJ he's going to fold to a shove but shove himself a decent amount). Yes some of the time we're going to lose a pot we could have won when villian limps behind but that should be countered by the times we win postflop and risk much less to do so.
Hey Chris, I've been watching your videos for some time now and since now you switched discipline I wonder what you think is more profitable. Cashgame or MTT?
there really isnt an answer to that @ Cloud. Cash provides a reasonably steady income, mtts provide the opporuntity to win piles but frequently result in you losing for ~a year or longer.
if youre talking about which is profitable in terms of just where your edge is biggest then clearly mtts are softer. There are plenty of regs in that EPT main event field I wouldn't bet on to beat 25NL zoom and clearly in terms of relative stakes thats way further up the mtt ladder than 25NL is up the cash ladder.
Thanks for the quick answer. Even though you say there isn't an answer the logic you are giving here is pretty straight forward: MTTs are more profitable because with the same amount of commitment and quality of work a tournament player can compete in higher games (hence win more) than a cash player.
I'm a winning reg at cashgames but I was always considering if I should switch to or mix MTTs because they seem so soft comparably. Perhaps that would be the wisest choice (and I guess that's also why you decided to switch).
i mean I still play a fair bit of cash. I just added mtts on sundays/COOPS/some live events to increase EV but keep the cash around to decrease variance.
The biggest fear of pure mtts is that you can just run horribly for a long time (by effectively running selectively bad at the deep parts of the mtts).
Nice one, in a vacuum I'm probably not calling the jam in the AQo squeezed spot vs utg and definitely folding the 99s pre, do you think I'm missing out on too much ev?
The AQ definitely not, I'd have preferred to fold.
The 99, yes. I won't elaborate because I'm going to put that hand in the video 4 of this series
Good vid, thanks...
audio kinda harsh; perhaps a better mike and/or a filter?
Hi, @30:30, you reshove a 16bbs AI w/TT when you have the utg+1 PFR on the hand. What is the range of villian who shoves? is this and standart movement with 30 bbs and a PFR from early? (sorry I'm new on MTTs)
This is pretty close and it's definitely the worst hand I'd reshove here.
Id encourage you to plug it into holdem resource calculator and see what range each player should have in this spot
I'd like you elaborate maybe in a futur video on the spot at 25:00.
AQo reshove, on my side I would have never jam but maybe I miss something. I did some calculation on HRC and it is a very marginal spot especially for your tournament life no? what would be the bottom of your range here?
AQo is the bottom of my range here unless villain is a known clown in which case Id use AJs. The spot is definitely close.
Unfortunately I've already made the final video for this series so if you want more details about this hand I'd recommend continuing to play around with it in HRC
Enjoyed the video Chris. I have a question: In the AQo hand you mentioned that people behind are going to stack off about 7 percent of the time each, on the conservative side. Where did you get this 7 percent from? Is it with regards to beating AQo in particular, or in general they wake up with a hand worthy of stacking off after this action? Seems like useful info for future.
Hi enjoyed this one, GJ!
At 22:35 Why do you think it is a bad 3bet spot? I guess low Axs are better candidates there, but do not mind doing it with this combo either against a wide CO orange. But in theory I guess when we choose also lower Axo combos for 3bet light we will be overfolding to 4bet jams?
At 31:00 I presume you are 3bet/folding AQo there?And calling only BB shove?
26:00 When you say he has no fold equity anymore, do you mean with respect to the hand we are in? That he can't make people fold over the top of the other shove as much as he could do with the same chips by open shoving them himself/herself?
Or do you mean if he loses he has less FE after the fact?
Cheers!
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