Big $22 (part 2)
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Love the content and format.
Thank you!
Great video. I love the in depth analysis of some of the hands at the end. I know you mentioned not having a lot of stats on your opponents, but on that A2o hand that you analyzed did you also look at villain's resteal stats? Seems like given his stack depth it may have been a good spot to try to resteal against a button that is perceived to be opening wide.
I did not look at his re-steal stats at the time due to sample size. I agree, raising may be better due to our inability to hit a lot of flops.
Nice video. Very good didactic indeed.
Heres one thought... On the A2o spot, I really think that flatting is not an option. Although we have the raw equity against his 3betting range, a2o realizes equity so badly. Lets take a look at the options. We do flop an ace, and have to play it very safely because of our dominated range. Or we dont... And what we are doing? Floating with ace high?
Basicaly were putting a lot of money to fold to many flop designs. If were trying to do something, I would prefer jamming pre...
Buy anyways just folding for me is the +ev move, almost always.
Thanks !!
Thank you for your input. I agree about the equity realization standpoint. Even on A high boards we hate our life when getting 3 barrelled. I'd have to say raise>call>fold. This is pretty opponent dependent. Versus a weak opponent I don't think folding is good because a weaker opponent won't be able to play well enough post flop to keep from us realizing our equity(or enough of it to make folding -EV).
Thank you for your thoughts!
Especially with your "low variance approach" (which I like a lot and it opened my eyes that I often times go for a way to aggressiv / high variance play especially with 15bb+) I am with HenriquinAK on this hand and think that realizing the equity here will be very very hard. (at least for none pro's :P).
Besides that, like the first part, this is a great video and your explanations are really good and easy to follow.
I just started watching (essential) videos here on RIO some time ago, but for me your series is by far the best video content I have seen until now.
Thanks a lot for that!
14:00 - What do you think about 4betting KQo instead of flatting, since villain is aggro and we are OOP?
30:40 - Shouldn't you be using Chip EV when calculating not FT spots with ICMizer?
Great videos. Reviews are mostly boring and you make it very useful.
I like 4 betting sometimes. I also think flatting versus an aggro villain is good too. We are getting a good price versus a perceived wide range.
Chip EV can be used for very early stages of MTTs. I will incorporate this into future videos.
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for the kind words, NewEarthling! I'll do my best to put out good content!
Great video man! Trying to get back into more game study myself. Had a question at the 6:50 point in the video with 86 in the bvb scenerio. When I'm in the bb as you pointed out in video Im flatting a flop bet with an extremely wide range of backdoor draws. For argument sake lets say I had JsTs. When you make it 3588 I'm normally raising to 8500-9500 with the intent of barreling any river. How would you continue oop given your preflop range is very wide but have quite a bit of equity? Should I even be raising to 9500 or just trying to realize equity? Good to see you on runitonce!
JMalc
Jonny Malc! Hope all is well man.
I think if you have JTs it would be better to raise the flop than to raise the turn. Reason is because my flop c-bet range(and most people I would assume) is going to be much wider than my flop+turn barrel range. I'm low in my 2 barreling range and I have a double gutty, so I think you'd be over-bluffing in this spot if you raised turn w/ the intention to barrel any river. I'd have some straights already, some two pairs, some Qx that can't fold on most rivers, and some Ax that would be calling a lot of Ace rivers. Would you be barreling any J or T as well?
In this spot I would try to realize equity and then bluff any brick river. You'd get more credit from me and get me to fold my ace X, my pair + draws, etc.
Nice to hear from you!
Spoken like a true coach, I feel like im getting value from essential membership with this guy on board. Thanks, from Egypt.
Thank you very much! Glad you are enjoying the content!
Hello and thank you for the video, great content, easy and fast but deep explanations. Your videos are my favourite so far in Whole RIO.
I want to ask about minute 27 the hand with KQ:
The betting guy is clearly building a pot to go all in on the river, and most of the times he would bet check otherwise against 2 as you said. So given the fact there will be action on any river, what are the rivers you call beside A and K of spades?
Is a fold on the turn too tight?
Thank you
Thank you very much for the pleasant words. If we are only calling with A and K of spade rivers, folding turn is exploitable but probably an okay fold. This is IF our villain will continue with all his bluffs 100% of the time on the river and we aren't calling unless we hit an A or K of spades. I could argue that the K of spades keeps us in a similar position, because I don't expect him to shove all of his middling spades, and shoving river as a bluff here would be madness because he most likely would have a strong enough hand to check river and expect to win some of the time(straights,sets).
Some of his bluffs(If he is bluffing here often, may check back when they hit a pair on the river thinking they have some showdown equity).
The player pool isn't bluffing enough multi-way in this spot. I think I can fold every other river pretty happily on the river. I can protect my range with some sets that turn into boats on K rivers. I also still have some nut flushes that I would call/call/call with. It's a very interesting spot and shows how tough it can be to play against players who may have a good amount of bluffs in their range.
The value of the turn call can be attributed to the hope that he shuts down with his bluffs on most rivers. If he has no intention to shut down(whether he's off the rails, or taking us to valuetown) then folding turn is most likely be the best play.
Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for the explanation :)
Hey Thomas thanks for a video review.
I have some kind of thinking about the hand you did extra review. A2o hand where u got 3betted and decided to fold but then showed that you had the % to call.
So the results of the calculation are eyes opening right, but I have a thought that we have some reverse implied odds in this hand, lets say the Axx comes, we gonna call at least one bet right so we are going to lose some extra chips against all the better Aces that villain is 3betting. So if we could count on ahead that when we call Ahigh boards and lose extra chips against villains dominating Aces then we might want to think differently about the hand and the % odds that we really have?
Hope it makes sense lol.
thanks WhatArunAA
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