Hello Ben, since we are talking about exploiting. Something comes to my mind, you of course familiar with monker bb defending range vs 2.5x BU open(RFI 40-42%). And it is fairly tight, I see some regs peeling T8o(mixed in monker) A2o-A3o (close to pure fold) 75o and so on.....
I certainly understand if you have postflop advantage you can defend, but OOP pretty hard to play(relize equity) even vs mediocre regs.
Q: How IP can exploit guy who likes to overdefend BB ? Or he dont need to do anything especiall, just now he gets more EV on every singe board.
If the bb range is too weak, you respond by increasing pressure postflop. So , Cbet a little more, double barrel and triple barrel a bit more, both for value and as bluffs. Since you are talking about bb being only a little too loose, your response should be to apply only a little more pressure.
at 14:30 in the flush over flush hand you criticise BB's flop play, raising over your raise. So should BB mainly continue by calling in this situation instead of reraising? Seems like a very complicated spot. what to do with 8s8x, KsTx, 97s, type of hands? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the best strategy for bb. just continue very tight and reraise very polar? thanks, love to see your 500z videos as always
I think you'd continue 8s8x, fold KsTx, call 97. I think calling most of your continues and re raising very polar is likely correct, but this spot is quite hard to model so who knows! The hand is already quite weird because CO chooses a big size in a spot where their range is far behind and should favor small size. The bottom line is that too much money got into the pot with the T5ss too quickly and more passivity was needed on some street.
Ben; 7.01 in 3b pot you MP vs CO, you c/r AsKsJh flop cbet of 4.91 bbs to 18bb with QdTd. What bluff and/or semi bluffs should we be balancing with here?
I was going to ask exactly the same question. I'm not surprised by Sauce's response and the types of hands that are supposed to be used to balance here, however, seems in practice those hands are rarely x/r and the spot is extremely underbluffed. Makes me wonder if x/c Q10 there (and possibly having no raising range) would play out better in practice versus how people actually play on these boards/textures.
Seems like you have played quite a lot with regs that you don't have many hands in your DB on - is this because you deliberately purge old hands, or just because of your setup or whatever?
Hi Ben Sulsky On your HUD what is the "-BB" stat?
Also what kind of sample do you think you need before you start exploiting FCB and F3B?
20min mark you flat TT in the SB vs CO open. Earlier in the video you 3 bet 88 in SB vs UTG. Can you explain how you are mixing between calling and 3 betting with these middling PPs?
27:30 you mentioned the opponents value bet is a little too thin here. Flop you XR because opponent has a higher Cbet %. Block bet the turn, then hero check calls the river. BTN had AsKs this hand for 80% river bet. Are you checking two pair on this river? I was trying to figure out why AK is too thin of a value bet here. Just after the hand you mentioned 9hXx would be higher frequency check raise bluff on the river. Are you also checking a lot of small flushes on this river?
Checking river with a lot of strong stuff that blocks X behinds, so 99/55, 9xhh, 4xhh. Betting a lot of good hands on river. 2PR looking to be mixed I think. AK probably near indifference, just annoying hand.
28:30 (BTN vs BB) Qh9h7c board with JcTh you bet 82% cbet. "highly contested board, so wanna use a more polar cbet strategy"
30min (HJ vs BB) AsJh on Q86ss you bet quarter pot cbet - "mostly small bet on this texture"
These boards seem pretty similar to me, so not sure if the 9 is that much different than the 8 or it's just the equity of your hand being OE vs BDFD. Feels like all bet sizes are some what equal on these two textures.
If anyone wants to chime in, feed back is much appreciated. TY
I think it's a spot some opponents in the pool are attacking with higher aggression than GTO because too many opponents bet big with strong hands on the double FD board while capping the block range too often and hoping opponent won't counter. Admittedly it's the small blind, so I'm always going to have a fairly large number of Qx, but the point is still true as I can have a huge freq of pocket pairs here. I like continuing a higher frequency with pocket pairs that unblock both FDs; hoping to increase call EV by running into a range with too many semibluffs. Continue freq quite tricky at equilibrium due to small blind range and how frequently to block vs bet big on turn, but I think continuing this hand class less than 35% or so vs raise looks weak. Suppose my range is something like 20% trips+, something like 35% pocketpairs, something like 30% draws of various kinds, and something like 15% overcards type hands. If I continue about 2/3 of my draws vs the raise and about 50% of my pockets, fold all worse, then I get a continue freq of 20%+10%+18% or so = 48%, and my opponent risks 21bb to win 20bb. Looks about right-- I think the indifference hands I'm looking for are things like AK where they're around indifferent to call turn but can also have river go XX on blanks and beat some of my draws that bet/call turn.
Hi, I am new to CG. I have a preflop related question.
Min20: @TT aren't we supposed to play 3bet with this particular hand vs a loose opponent ?
I imagine with the rake structure we are interested in playing mainly a 3bet/fold strategy from the SB. Against a looser opponent I would imagine we want to be 3betting even more, thus adding TT to our valuerange makes sense to me.
Hey Ben
At 21:50 with the tt hand against youseff- turn raise on paired double fd board.
What do you think about 3bet shoving turn to punish the aggressive draws?
That is something I tend to do in that spot against lags
Thanks for your thoughts!
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Hello Ben, since we are talking about exploiting. Something comes to my mind, you of course familiar with monker bb defending range vs 2.5x BU open(RFI 40-42%). And it is fairly tight, I see some regs peeling T8o(mixed in monker) A2o-A3o (close to pure fold) 75o and so on.....
I certainly understand if you have postflop advantage you can defend, but OOP pretty hard to play(relize equity) even vs mediocre regs.
Q: How IP can exploit guy who likes to overdefend BB ? Or he dont need to do anything especiall, just now he gets more EV on every singe board.
Cheers
If the bb range is too weak, you respond by increasing pressure postflop. So , Cbet a little more, double barrel and triple barrel a bit more, both for value and as bluffs. Since you are talking about bb being only a little too loose, your response should be to apply only a little more pressure.
Great video, thanks Ben.
Looking forward to part 2.
at 14:30 in the flush over flush hand you criticise BB's flop play, raising over your raise. So should BB mainly continue by calling in this situation instead of reraising? Seems like a very complicated spot. what to do with 8s8x, KsTx, 97s, type of hands? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the best strategy for bb. just continue very tight and reraise very polar? thanks, love to see your 500z videos as always
I think you'd continue 8s8x, fold KsTx, call 97. I think calling most of your continues and re raising very polar is likely correct, but this spot is quite hard to model so who knows! The hand is already quite weird because CO chooses a big size in a spot where their range is far behind and should favor small size. The bottom line is that too much money got into the pot with the T5ss too quickly and more passivity was needed on some street.
Looks like we found the BB ;)
Ben; 7.01 in 3b pot you MP vs CO, you c/r AsKsJh flop cbet of 4.91 bbs to 18bb with QdTd. What bluff and/or semi bluffs should we be balancing with here?
Mostly hands matching our value of straights/sets: KQ, JTs, QQ, FDs, both with and without a spade but often having a spade.
I was going to ask exactly the same question. I'm not surprised by Sauce's response and the types of hands that are supposed to be used to balance here, however, seems in practice those hands are rarely x/r and the spot is extremely underbluffed. Makes me wonder if x/c Q10 there (and possibly having no raising range) would play out better in practice versus how people actually play on these boards/textures.
Worm- it definitely can't be to always XC given your assumptions.
Seems like you have played quite a lot with regs that you don't have many hands in your DB on - is this because you deliberately purge old hands, or just because of your setup or whatever?
I've played on some other PCs and I think most of the hands are on those
"9 dollars with two nines on the board, a classic tell" . Glad to know i'm not the only one who think that haha
Laughed very hard at this part of the video!
Hi Ben Sulsky On your HUD what is the "-BB" stat?

Also what kind of sample do you think you need before you start exploiting FCB and F3B?
20min mark you flat TT in the SB vs CO open. Earlier in the video you 3 bet 88 in SB vs UTG. Can you explain how you are mixing between calling and 3 betting with these middling PPs?
I don't usually explain the exact freq of preflop play
27:30 you mentioned the opponents value bet is a little too thin here. Flop you XR because opponent has a higher Cbet %. Block bet the turn, then hero check calls the river. BTN had AsKs this hand for 80% river bet. Are you checking two pair on this river? I was trying to figure out why AK is too thin of a value bet here. Just after the hand you mentioned 9hXx would be higher frequency check raise bluff on the river. Are you also checking a lot of small flushes on this river?

Checking river with a lot of strong stuff that blocks X behinds, so 99/55, 9xhh, 4xhh. Betting a lot of good hands on river. 2PR looking to be mixed I think. AK probably near indifference, just annoying hand.
28:30 (BTN vs BB) Qh9h7c board with JcTh you bet 82% cbet. "highly contested board, so wanna use a more polar cbet strategy"
30min (HJ vs BB) AsJh on Q86ss you bet quarter pot cbet - "mostly small bet on this texture"
These boards seem pretty similar to me, so not sure if the 9 is that much different than the 8 or it's just the equity of your hand being OE vs BDFD. Feels like all bet sizes are some what equal on these two textures.
If anyone wants to chime in, feed back is much appreciated. TY
It depends on the preflop ranges, HJ range is a lot tighter and has bigger advantage against big blind.
new avatar, I don't even know you anymore :(
21:30~ with continuing TT on qq57ssdd at some frequency, what kind of frequency are you personally looking at in this spot?
I think it's a spot some opponents in the pool are attacking with higher aggression than GTO because too many opponents bet big with strong hands on the double FD board while capping the block range too often and hoping opponent won't counter. Admittedly it's the small blind, so I'm always going to have a fairly large number of Qx, but the point is still true as I can have a huge freq of pocket pairs here. I like continuing a higher frequency with pocket pairs that unblock both FDs; hoping to increase call EV by running into a range with too many semibluffs. Continue freq quite tricky at equilibrium due to small blind range and how frequently to block vs bet big on turn, but I think continuing this hand class less than 35% or so vs raise looks weak. Suppose my range is something like 20% trips+, something like 35% pocketpairs, something like 30% draws of various kinds, and something like 15% overcards type hands. If I continue about 2/3 of my draws vs the raise and about 50% of my pockets, fold all worse, then I get a continue freq of 20%+10%+18% or so = 48%, and my opponent risks 21bb to win 20bb. Looks about right-- I think the indifference hands I'm looking for are things like AK where they're around indifferent to call turn but can also have river go XX on blanks and beat some of my draws that bet/call turn.
Hi, I am new to CG. I have a preflop related question.
Min20: @TT aren't we supposed to play 3bet with this particular hand vs a loose opponent ?
I imagine with the rake structure we are interested in playing mainly a 3bet/fold strategy from the SB. Against a looser opponent I would imagine we want to be 3betting even more, thus adding TT to our valuerange makes sense to me.
Thanks in advance!
Against smaller sizings much more sb calling. TT mostly 3b, mixes some calls.
Hey Ben
At 21:50 with the tt hand against youseff- turn raise on paired double fd board.
What do you think about 3bet shoving turn to punish the aggressive draws?
That is something I tend to do in that spot against lags
Thanks for your thoughts!
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