I enjoyed this one! A point that resonated with me was (paraphrased) - "When an opponent plays a bet bet bet line on a runout that is unfavorable for their range I think it's stronger/less bluffy than it should be."

Keep up the good work Ben, big fan!

Hey Sauce,

About J8hh hand.

I think calling is totally fine here. You didn’t speak about this in your vid, but Even if vilain has not enough air hands like 75ss 64dd, I don’t think population tends to bluff enough showdown value bluff like 22, K3, 53s and all the 9x hh who might in practice x at a high frec imo.
So it might increase the ev of calling with J8hh type hand.
+ I don’t see vilain auto shove all his 9xhh he ovb turn with, facing a raise on the turn. So If vilain doesn’t shove with those hands hand has only small amount of ovb with those hands, calling with J8hh would have a significant higher ev.
Tell me if I’m wrong.

Anyway, great play, great analyse.

Thanks for this one.

1 hour of Sauce, can't get any better.
Oh wait, adding chicken wings would make xD

On a serious node:
+++J8s sim:What about adding just shove size on the turn as well? would it be used(obv. not with your combo) in general or smaller sizing preferred?

And last question (2nd as rule goes) You've been tighting up from BB vs SB opens. Is it your takeaway from various preflop sims, is it max value at 500z? Yes 2,5bb is smaller, however 3bb is bigger(logic 100lvl) but we still IP (If SB not using monker ranges which are significantly tighter than most people doing)

I'm gonna watch some Sauce playing some Zoom (:

Great vid!
Why do you think AQ pure bluffs turn and river on the t837t hand? The turn felt mergy given ak doesnt pure fold but i guess its to give it bluffs on certain rivers/has outs versus jj stuff and blocks aa?

I enjoyed this one as well. was really very interesting

@17:00 haha i had no idea that this session was getting recorded :P

yeah my combo was pretty random to raise with ott, if i was to speculate i imagine the solver would much prefer raising with some 8x (so that we can value bet when it comes the 7 river, and also so that we block your 87 combos, which is going to reduce your turn 3bet frequency). as well as some flush draws and some of the sets that i checked back otf in order to punish thin value bets and so that i have some boats on board pairs otr. but also i think its
counterintuitively good to unblock the 8x as that is gonna be your highest frequency turn bet/fold bluffing combos.

however, the reason that i raised here was more of an exploitative nature, which i think would work much better against population than you, fwiw. not gonna go in to too much detail with regards to this as i don't wanna give away my strategy tho :P haha.

i was just kinda testing out this turn raise thing, not sure how much i like it, and it can be fairly difficult to balance your frequencies such that you aren't going too much in either direction; whether that be bluffing or raising for value.

i always just try and take different lines in order to be tougher to play against and put other good regulars out of their comfort zones, cos they know how to play against a triple barrel but not so much a turn raise on a 4 straight board :P

Great vid! Especially loved the Pio analysis.

I was the guy with AA at 17:56 - I've checked it and I should be blocking river having x/raised force you to call more underpairs, shove is quite a bit worse (edit I say quite a bit its 2bb)

And my 2 cents at 24:40 is that you'll be losing quite a lot of money calling here every time, probably in gtoland and definitely in reality. In the sandwich spot vs an overbet I don't see what reason you have not to be extremely tight.