$500 Zoom Jungle Style: Swinging up to 600bb
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Believe it or not, my first time watching a video of yours!
I have a question. At 5:30, why did you check KK behind on the left table? KK still seems pretty strong. You are still ahead of some draws, 9x hands and some 6x, and it might be difficult to get value from them on most rivers, so why not just bet turn?
So, I think solver would have big blind slowplaying a fairly high frequency of 66/22 and 96s, and would probably pure 3b preflop with 99. I think people probably fast play too much with these hands, and I don't think there are enough combos of J9s to stop me from wanting to bet/call turn. I prefer your line! Small caveat that it's probably putting a bit too much money in here with overpairs and is exploitable, and QQ-AA should be mixed on turn...
what is called PIO "permutation" in english? thank you.
All the details of every possible counter exploit and counter counter exploit etc
Hi Ben,
I've only ever left technical comments before, but the whole thing about jamming your massive stack being important for self esteem gave me a good laugh.
Anyways, I don't have much to add from a strategic point of view. I just want to say that these videos will always be valued whether you're consistently grinded one game type/poker in general. I think your voice will always be valuable in the poker scene and RIO members are glad your around
best,
Knights
34:05 You say you have a calling range when deeper in the sb and have seen you do this in previous videos, Mind expanding on this more? Do you think there is a big ev drop when playing 3b or fold from SB at say 200bbs vs adding in a flat range?
Thanks I enjoyed the video!
I think there's a big EV drop yes. Do your monkey work
Thanks for the reply, I assume you are only flatting when deeper or when certain players are in the bb and not as important at 100bbs?
I have only looked at 100bb monker sims so will have to run some deeper ones, Just want to make sure I am not missing something from the 100bbs sims I have run.
It truly is a beautiful thing to see a master of their craft put on an inspired performance inspired by a peer who is also on an extremely high level.
I think you did a very good job of communicating the message in Jungle's videos, can't wait for part 2 ! Would be cool imo to watch your take on Jungle's river combo counting facing a bet technique (Last hand that he breaks down in his first video demonstrates it iirc). Another cool idea for a video perhaps would be 'Jungleman reviews Sauce', but alas, I'm getting carried away.
And one question if I may, in the last hand - The Jd9 - You mentioned you believe you should've chosen a different turn sizing, what do you think is best?
With the Jd9, I prefer a geometric or slightly over sizing where turn is ~pot and river is ~3/4th pot. On non straightening diamonds that should allow OOP to value jam KT which is a big part of range. Not a big deal
Min 25 you 3bt to 14bbs from bb vs co 2.5. Can you explain your reasoning behind this? It seems that, even in theory, this just cant be justified? Your opp can just exploit you by over-folding cant he? You put your opp in basically a 4bt-or-fold situation which is great with 65s, but then your opp doesn't call with any hands you have a 'card-advantage' against with your other value hands- basically you MAKE him fold correctly or continue with hands that you dont have much of a card advantage against.
A few hands later on right table you cold-4bt AQs to 20 which is only 6 bbs more - so again, even theory-wise, something is way off here. Squeezing to 14 is even kinda large let alone 3bting a 2.5x raise...
Great video with great commentary - thanks!
I recommend giving your monkey different sizings and seeing which one they like!
Great video Ben Sulsky
At 28:47, Why do we bet more when we have KK with a diamond?
Having a diamond tilts IP's range to a few more medium strength hands like A high or pocket pairs which will mostly check behind. In general I like piling on this card as we can find plenty of bluffs and leverage our overpair advantage. Most IP players these days are pure 4b QQ+, most pure 4b JJ+ and some will show up with high frequency 4b with TT+. Very few are slowplaying AA or KK. So I prefer simply piling on turn and then mixing in a few medium strength hands to the checking range so that our opponent can't bet for protection/value with weak pocket pairs.
i think we all need a little more jungle style in our poker
Great content Ben! I prefer this format. I reckon if the Jungle finds himself in a table vs You, Tyler, Luke and Teunuss he will go broke :)
10:50 T#1 with 8s6s on Td-7s-4s solver is playing pure check call with this combo and raising more of the T9s, J9s, & J8s. Can you elaborate more on why solver plays this passively? In the video you said it would be a pure check raise.
14:10 A9c BTN vs SB 3BP vs half pot cbet, pure fold as you want ability to turn top pair more than just double back door draws, but EV is close. As played amazing river call imo against population where river XR is very strong.
As a future video request and maybe a future Christmas present for the community I suggest a heads up match:
@10:50, I wouldn't worry too much about this effect. If IP player is an aggro cbettor or aggro 3bettor it's going to go well and playing a lot of XR on this board is good.
@14:10, I think I prefer fold on flop here by a bit vs half pot. Continue vs third pot. As played I think river is a bet/call. I like XR bluffing here for OOP with hands like AhKs and AhKd
If the match could be mix too that would be amazing! But definite +1 for any format of this!
A9cc hand at 14.10 was most interesting hand in the video for me. On turn I think it makes for a poor stabbing hand given that both of your cards should be overweight in the SB check-fold range as the SB should cbet more often with hands with backdoor draws, and then give up turn very often with these types of hands as they block your flop floats with backdoors that now snap fold the turn. Based on the fact you like AhKd and AhKs but not AhKc for river bluff raises I think you know this effect, and realised this just in time in-game and checked?
As for river check-raise bluffs I disagree with having Ah (or any h) in the bluffing range, as the BTN's bluffing range includes a lot of flush draws that didn't stab the turn.
PIO does not seem to like the river bet-call in my sim as it does not value the 9 blocker too highly, but then again it has SB betting 99 100% of the time on the river rather than check-shoving ever. Given that lots of people would check-shove 99 instead I think the 9 then becomes a good blocker, along with the A which you rightly said was a +ve blocker and so in reality A9 is probably a decent calling hand.
I am also +1 for the grudge match, or alternatively he reviews some of your play like he did with Mr. Falcons (whilst eating salad) and then you review some of his play?
There is no match lol
Enjoyed the video Ben, I am also a big fan of jamming massive stacks just for the sake of it.
25.36 - 86 on 886r BB vs SB
This is an interesting board in which SB should check VERY often (85%+) as BB has a slight trips advantage, a straight draw advantage, and position. He's almost certainly betting too often given he shows up with 33. If SB mistakenly cbets range for 50% of the pot you get to raise over 50% of the time and go wild.
32.49 - A9 on JJ5 MP vs SB
Assuming we have a big enough sample to suggest SB is a recreational player and likely calling too many hands preflop from SB, can we just pretend we are MP vs BB instead and cbet range for 25% of the pot?
Given that he flatted SB vs UTG 100bb deep rather than playing a 3bet or fold strategy suggested to me he was probably a recreational player, however the presence of a likely recreational in the BB could incentivise a reg to develop a flatting range.
This makes sense
at12:50 you fast folded 55 in sb to the short stack aggro fish squeeze 55bb what does your calling range look like vs squeezer -66+? 77+ bc i prob make the call when everyone else folds
live videos are the best ! thanks for making this one Sauce
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