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BB vs EP Opens: Postflop Play and Exploits

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Daniel Dvoress

POSTED Aug 09, 2018

Daniel Dvoress aka Oxota examines BB defense spots in PIO facing EP raises. Using 10 hand examples, Daniel focuses on population exploits and explains how minor differences in board texture can lead to vastly different ways that ranges should be played. Stay tuned until the end for a board exploit that can be used in a number of spots.

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IG0tDibs 6 years, 7 months ago

I really like your videos, really helped me out in the blinds! I was wondering if you could do a series or videos with button flatting strategies or button play in general deep and shallow in mtts similar to the bvb play vid. Thank you for the great content!

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 7 months ago

This is something I will consider doing, but probably not in the immediate future. I generally try to shy away from doing stuff with which there is a lot of disagreement among viewers about early nodes. So for BU flat vs say HJ open, the ranges are relatively narrow so there is going to be a very big difference in things like equity distribution and blocker effects; different boards will tend to play very differently even with a small shift with preflop ranges. So it's a little tough making content when initial conditions matter so much, yet different people have very different assumptions. Does that make sense?

Dan A 6 years, 7 months ago

Awesome video and organized explanation of your thought process for each hand.

The one part I have trouble understanding is in hand 3 why flop x/raise frequencies increase vs. the nodelocked strong cbet range. Can you help explain the the intuition behind this strategic adjustment?

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 7 months ago

Great question.

It is because the "strong" c-bet range isn't actually very strong, since overpairs aren't that great on this board. We are very deep and against a x/r and subsequent barrels overpairs are just going to be bluffcatchers. So essentially this fake-strong 40% c-bet range is actually just a high frequency wide, capped, condensed bluffcatching range. So OOP just does what you are supposed to do when your opponent is capped and you have the nuts/hands that will be the nuts or air - you start building a big pot and therefore you checkraise a bunch. Does that make sense?

Solid 6 years, 7 months ago

Great video Daniel pretty interesting topic. Really enjoy watching the exploits.

I have a question in the part you exploit the opener for checking back flop with a overbet. This apply with short stacks? 14-22bb? or you prefer to be more value heavy with a small sizing?

I would like to see the second part. Thanks

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 7 months ago

Thank you.

There are two answers to your question.

The spot is different at shorter stacks since at shorter stacks IP should have a higher global c-bet frequency on a board like 753r.

Now assuming that magically we get to the turn with the exact same conditions both with SPR 4 and SPR 10+, I don't see there being much of a difference. With SPR4 you still need to pot+ to get all in by the river, so I don't see why we would stop overbetting.

FIVEbetbLUFF 6 years, 7 months ago

At the 4:00 mark, you display your bb defense range vs the lj open, and I notice you peel K7o, yet fold stuff like Q8o/J8o. Why is this? Wouldn't those generate more EV?

moosedeer17 6 years, 7 months ago

someone more informed can correct me if im wrong but i think between those 3 specific holdings, the difference in EV is relatively unimportant. he could change K7o to Q8o and it wouldnt change the overall EV of the range that much.

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 7 months ago

What moosedeer said, all those hands are really close to breakeven. Q8/J8o don't generate much EV against an EP open, they are connected but the straights they make tend to suck when you consider EP's opening range.

Pedro Madeira 6 years, 7 months ago

Hey mate, very nice content.
I like the ideia to do MPvsBB as well as BUvsBB, also do it for different stack depth.
Something else interesting to see would be EPvsBU, MPvsBU, etc like IG0tDibs stated above.

Andreas Persson 6 years, 7 months ago

good info. are we open 20 % already from EP thought that was more for MP open?
how does the open range looks like from the first 3 pos then?

Daniel Dvoress 6 years, 7 months ago

Hehe, yeah it's a little wide - I mostly play 6-8 handed so generally for me EP is just any position that is LJ or before. With a full ante I'd be looking to open closer to 15-16% from UTG9.

Cassoulet 6 years, 3 months ago

Hello Oxota very nice vid , I am sad watching this so late. :)

9:20 I am surprised that IP player has to Bet/fold that much AQ with bakdoor FD. I guess because this is a very big sizing (X4.2) and because there are a lot of bluffs with the As.
But I don't understand why Pio prefer way more frequently for IP to Bet/call AsQd AsQc more than the AsQh . Having the Qh does not block oop bluffs (the QTs Q9s Q8s check/raise bluff seems with to be the spades combos)
It seems the same preference for all the offsuit broadways. Any thoughts on this?

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