So I Bluffed the Turn, Now What?

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So I Bluffed the Turn, Now What?

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Alex Theologis

POSTED Sep 04, 2020

Alex Theologis aka pwndidi finds himself on the river after bluffing the turn and discusses his options for proceeding on this often difficult spot. He utilizes hands played in recent tournaments to help him illustrate various points throughout.

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Redeth 4 years, 6 months ago

Thanks for the video Alex! For future videos, I believe an educational content would be to dilve into ICM situations.
Maybe money bubble plays or final tables. Something like preflop ranges, perhaps, reshoves or calls or even postflop adjustments on an ICM environment.
Συνεχισε την καλη δουλεια! :) keep it up

OMGIsildurrrrman12 4 years, 6 months ago

Howdy, Sheriff! This town ain't big enough for the both of us!. . . . . so I will just quietly and politely leave. =P

Alex Theologis - Seriously, thanks for another very helpful video. You have solidified yet another concept in my mind, from this one video alone, and that often takes 10 random videos or more to have the same result, so thank you for the efficiency! =)

Jeff_ 4 years, 6 months ago

9min he x/R so much vs small size because you are somewhat capped with 2 size strategy. If we change to only smalll size I think it will drop.
Same hand why IP shoving river AK lol; I suppose because it have a lot more EV as a bluff but still interestong

Alex Theologis 4 years, 6 months ago

Thank you for your comment, that is true to an extend. As we can see, PIO mixes in strong hands in both sizings and always keeps the ranges balanced. I agree that we will see less raising with only a small sizing, but that would not be representative of my strategy ingame. AK just has extremely good blockers for his calling range.

SoundSpeed 4 years, 6 months ago

Excellent video.

Any future vid on vpip tourney review or possibly cards up ft review would be great.

I think deepstack 3bet spots ip and especially oop, either as the 3bettor or the caller would be good content as well.

Thanks.

radtupperware 4 years, 6 months ago

On the first hand, when you node lock like that, I think every river will be terrible for you after overbet->call on turn. You are basically betting every bluffing combo for overbet exploitatively and you're really imbalanced toward shit hands. :)

Alex Theologis 4 years, 6 months ago

I only nodelocked OOP's response ott, not IP's strategy. This is the optimal strategy PIO chooses to use when our opponent folds 8x to a turn overbet.

radtupperware 4 years, 6 months ago

Yeah -- but every river will still be terrible for you. When it's SUPER profitable to bluff you're going to do it a lot. So you get to the river with a lot of trash when you're actually called (but most of the time you just get a fold so it's fine).

David Martins 4 years, 5 months ago

Hey Alex, Excellent video again thank you! It was helpful for the river and also for the turn.
I have a question for you regarding sizes for the flop.
When do you choose to simplify betting 50% which range rather have a 30% ~70% mix strategy?

On 962r UTG+2 vs BB 34bb, You choose to cbet small because the population plays the worst against small sizes, the solver mixes small and big sizes. I thought this spot could be simplified by betting 50% without losing much EV, what do you think?
Also 15:53 UTG+2 vs BB QT4cc 90bb we get to bet small and bigger, is fine to simplify and go for 50%?

I have in my notes of one of your other videos:
1- UTG+2 vs BB 29bb K43r with A8ss that you say " Flop Given our stacks sizes and position and BB range we can simplify to cbet 50% with our range."
2- HJ vs BB Q85hh 27bb with AJhh Simplify with 50% Size with range will work out fine.

After the notes, I'm thinking a lot of times when we get to mix 30%~70% cbets and going with 50% with my range to simplify but I'd like to know what do you think and when we can do it or not.

Thanks again looking forward to watching your Bounty 5k Series.

Alex Theologis 4 years, 5 months ago

Hey, sorry for the slow response. Your points are all correct, however the main criteria for simplifying is whether there is a group of hands that really prefers one sizing or not. In the 962r example, there are a LOT of hands that prefer to and only use the big sizing, therefore simplifying to 50% here would result in somewhat of an EV loss. However, when we notice hands that do a lot of mixing between sizings, that is a perfect spot to simplify.

Matan_89 7 months ago

Hey Alex,

On the last hand, you pointed out that you will overbet the Turn with our specific combination of QdTc.
There's a reason you mention that the Q is the same suit as the 9 and the T is the same suit as the K? can you elaborate on that and explain how it can effect our betting and sizing?

Thank You for your time and effort! Amazing content!

Alex Theologis 7 months ago

Hey, I'm glad you like the content! I think I mentioned that just so I can check my exact combo on the solver. The main reason that this hand becomes a good turn barrel is having a club, without it mattering much which club it is. Having Q same suit as the 9 means that we unblock a few more 9xs that our opponent will fold on the turn, but it's not that significant I don't think.

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