40BB: Later Positions and Wider Ranges (CO Edition)

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40BB: Later Positions and Wider Ranges (CO Edition)

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Alex Theologis

POSTED Dec 01, 2022

Alex Theologis continues his exploration of playing with 40BBs this time focusing on CO v BB which means wider ranges and trickier spots.

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SoundSpeed 2 years, 3 months ago

Another great breakdown Alex!

5:59 you mention more of a rng bet strat because bb rng is weak since they should be 3betting more vs a co open as opposed to a utg open. I don't think people really 3bet from the bb as much as they should. I think there rngs are a bit stronger and we may want to be a bit more careful with our cbet freq. What do you think about peoples 3bet tendencies from the bb vs lp open?

10:00 it looks like akLow prefers bigger sizes but aqL likes block. Why the difference?

12:45 the rule of betting 1 high and 1 low card. Is this simply because we can fold out better kx and qx?

Thanks!

Patates 2 years, 3 months ago

My two cents on your questions as you await for Alex's response.

5:59 I agree with you about preflop not 3betting enough but I don't think that it's enough of a reason to adjust your strategy and deviate from the theory in most boards.

10:00 AKLow is more locked and doesn't need protection from anything, hence no use for the block. AQL likes block because it gets protection from a bunch of Kxo that can outdraw you if you have Q9s for example.

12:45 I believe Alex is talking about having a flush. KQss is way better as a slowplay than K5ss since you will get much more action if your opponent is holding a single spade combo that is the queen and not the five. Even if they already have a flush, in case another spade rolls off, you are still getting significant action from Q2ss let's say but not so much from 52ss.

Alex Theologis 2 years, 3 months ago

I think Patates answered everything perfectly haha, I don't have a lot to add.

@5:59 : I still think AJs+, AQ+ people will still be 3betting/jamming etc so this shouldn't really affect our strategy on A high boards. I do agree they miss some of the bluffs though.

@10:00 : Basically what Patates says and also, you can see that on AKlow we actually get to check quite a bit so we use more of a polar betting strategy (more hands that don't need protection, locked board etc) whereas AQlow is basically a rangebet.

@12:45 Ineed I was referring to having a flush, we generally want to slowplay 2 high card flushes because they block a lot of what our opponent can have (hence we slowplay KQss but fastplay K5ss).

I appreciate the involvement and also big thanks to Patates for the contribution <3

Patates 2 years, 3 months ago

Good video Alex!

I appreciated the faster pace on this one since you are basically comparing to previous installments.

buttonko 2 years, 3 months ago

Great video as were the previous ones, thx!
I have a question about the low boards, it seems that CO uses pot size bet even on textures on which BB can flop a straight more often than CO e.g. 654, 653, 764 (on T/J/Q high textures the bet size was capped at 50% on board like T76). Is it because CO cbets these textures in lower frequencies (stronger range?) and therefore gets to go bigger?
Thx.

Alex Theologis 2 years, 2 months ago

Thank you! Yes, your idea is correct and then also the big blind defends wider vs CO so has more random middle/bottom pairs/gutshots etc and the very strong hands are a very small portion of his range and the spr isn't big enough to make it a huge concern.

mizl 2 years, 3 months ago

another very helpful video! i will certainly rewatch the whole series because there is a lot of information in there.

jcoffmanky 2 years ago

Loving this series man @JustaDidi. It's inspired me to go deep in GTO Wizard developing lots of reports on these boards, divy up small vs big cb frequencies etc. Would love to see a similar series for deeper stacked play in the future. Maybe 80-100bb? Either way, appreciate what you've done here

OlNK 2 years ago

Thank you for this. You are a gifted teacher. Not simply analytical, but also articulate and able to focus on essential comments without wandering through tangential weeds.

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