$25 Monster Stack: 50 of 6,586 Remain
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Hi Adam, question I have from a live tourney yesterday. I was playing a $300 live tourney, 33 left out of 240, top 30 get paid. I shoved TT UTG8 for 7.2bb and HJ reshoved KQo for 15-16bb. HJ reshove is bad right? BB folded 99.
3min mark of your video where you min raise ATs and fold to BB 10bb shove made me think of my hand because you mentioned KQo doesn't want to call a shove here vs a tight player. On wizard if I look at 10bb &12bb stacks, at 10bb ATo winning about a SB and ATs winning about 1bb, so I like the fold vs a tight player. Then at 12bb, ATo mixing folds and ATs winning about a SB. A baseline calling range vs tighter players will be something like AJs+ 88+ AQo+?
edit* Noticed you pulled up the wizard sim at 4:30 mark.
The KQ reshove sounds quite bad yes. If it is BB ante maybe he thinks you are jamming lighter from UTG, but on the bubble plus being in the HJ with 4 players behind makes that KQo an easy fold.
Is ISmellToast you on pokerstars? Looking forward to learning a lot of MTT stuff from you to help me with my live game. A bit rusty after 5 years.
26 min is a spot I'm looking to brush up on the most. Facing these small 3bets with some suited broadways, small pairs, maybe SCs etc. Happy to see it's just an "easy fold." I'm so used to paying off recs in cash games in these spots.
Yes I am ISmellToast on PokerStars
These sorts of weak broadway suited connectors go down a lot in value once you are late stages and facing 3bets from OOP. In live cash games they are great hands to see the flop, but totally different in MTTs. Especially if your opponent is 3betting you from early position you should almost always fold these sort of hands, since the early position 3bets are supposed to be more linear/blocker heavy, so they can be 3bet bluffing AJo or KQo for example, which is bad for us to defend stuff like KTs or JTs.
29min I love to see this image of final 2 table BB defense compared to a normal BB defense. Do you think this BB defense is ok in soft tourney fields to just over fold the BB? Preserve your chips for better spots vs weaker players or do we need to defend BB wide still?
I am seeing a lot of limping going in in these live tourneys, so their RFI ranges is going to be tighter, which usually means we have to tighten up BB defense anyways right? I was folding 54/65o etc and when I checked wizard I was hard on myself for over folding. But seeing this final 2 table BB defense makes me think its ok.
Just use your good judgment on when to defend tighter or looser. Your logic that a lot of limping makes the raising ranges stronger is correct, but also consider that most of the players who play like that are not good at playing post-flop, so that kind of balances out for the downside of being up against tighter ranges. Generally, you do want to play significantly tighter in the BB the deeper you get into MTTs, so folding stuff like your 54o, 65o is very standard in almost all situations. The only time you want to play a loose range from the BB where it's closer to a chipEV range is when you are a big chipleader and are defending vs medium stacks who you can put a lot of ICM pressure on postflop.
58min Compared to wizard what is the calling off range here? Hearing how you play reminds me a lot of cash game ranges because AQo EP vs EP would be a 3bet bluff, then easy fold to a 4bet, but wizard is stacking off here at 20bb for +2.4EV. I am wondering if I should just ignore wizard in general and just apply the same logic or how I view cash games to these tourneys?
Hey, that result you are looking at is a chipEV sim which is very different from how you want to play during the late stages of an MTT. Here is what the strategy should look like in this spot with 3 tables remaining of a 1000 player field MTT:
Hey, last hand question.
Did you node lock for big blind over 3b bluffing? like giving his range same value but way more bluffs and how the solver proceeds?
I did not for this hand, but I have run those spots node-locked before and the results can be very different from GTO. I have seen some results where we can profitably 4bet jam everything if the BB 3bet bluffs all the Kx and Ax offsuit + low kicker combos.
Hey Adam,
58:00 how do you play kqs kjs kts qjs? These are always tough for.me in these spots. It seems a waste to 3bet fold but maybe ranges are too tight to flat?
It's a spot where the range we want to play is so strong and narrow that usually the GTO play is to 3bet the whole range. If it's a soft table where you don't care as much about playing GTO preflop it can make sense to flat certain hands like KQs or AJs. Hands like QJs and KTs are significantly worse than KQs though, you shouldn't worry about "wasting" those hands, because vs an UTG open they are not that strong.
Hey Adam,
51:10 99 - You was arguing it best to just check fold flop with 99. Would you just fold also hands like JJ/TT as they seem in this flop spot similar hand strength as 99?
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