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Playing Aces in 3B Pots When OOP

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Playing Aces in 3B Pots When OOP

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Alien Slayer

POSTED Dec 04, 2019

It's a situation that any PLO player is all too familiar with and can prove to be quite tricky. Alien Slayer takes a crack at playing aces in 3B pots when out of position and discusses the nuance required to proceed on the flop and future streets.

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endymion 5 years, 4 months ago

Hi Alien Slayer, good video thank you.

Your video brought up something I've never quite got my head around: When he have AAxx and one of our low cards pairs the bottom card, like at 31:00 w/AA43 on JT3 and 35:15 w/AAQ2 on J82, it seems to me that it's generally unfavourable that we paired in this way. With AA43 we mainly just lost one of our outs vs JTxx which is the most likely 2 pair, however with AAQ2 it's different since as you mentioned a Q would give us a better two pair than J8xx.
Am I missing something about this bottom side card pairing in these situations, besides ofc having a blocker to the low 2 pairs and set combos, is it actually bad news that we paired?

A second question, you mentioned the stab when checked to in 3bp stat. I have recently done some work on my HUD and have added this and found it quite helpful, do you have any other stat suggestions that you find particularly useful that might not be obvious inclusions to a HUD.

Thanks again.

Alien Slayer 5 years, 4 months ago

Very good question!
You are right, when we do already hold the overpair the bottom bird pair doesn’t help us besides of slightly reducing the 2p+ combos of villain. Blocking top or middle pair is much more valuable on most boards since the bottom card doesn’t interact that often with the ranges.

Regarding your 2nd question:
There are some stats that give helpful insight with a solid sample size like bet turn / river after having stabbed flop vs missed cbet or x back F and fold to turn bet.
With note caddy there are also several more sophisticated stats like stats vs hero to compare if villain is maybe playing exploitative vs hero in certain spots ( like raising far more often vs cbet then the general stat suggests)

Thallo 5 years, 4 months ago

30 minutes. You mention AQQ6 as a slow play or QQ with a SD, for the former I don't think this is ever in our 3b from the BB even double suited at 100 bb's with a button caller, and the latter has VERY few combos in the 3b range as well. I'm struggling to find enough x/r value combos here to stay balanced. I'd be curious if you have run this spot what the solver is using as the x/r's.

Alien Slayer 5 years, 3 months ago

yes you are right, I didn't really kept in mind the Squeeze situation and our range when talking about the slowplays.
Actually I would say that all QQ can be considered a slowplay because we
a) reduce the likelyhood of someone having a hand they can continue with
b) get draws to stabb since they can expect me to have some x/f as discussed in the video and have much higher EV in betting then checking ( any pair + OESD , any wrap , any good pair +GS + 2BDFD )

we can also add some of our best Aces like AA86ds but as mentioned the problem is that we really dont want a Q+ kickers to take a free card . Exploitativly there is a lot of room to lower our cbet frequency if we know that at least one player is overaggro.

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