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$2.50/$5 CREV HH Review

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Tyler Forrester

POSTED Feb 17, 2015

Tyler fires up CREV to review a bluffcatching hand he was dealt in his previous video along with a few others.

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Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

I have to disagree. Because of the interdependence of basketball players (one player can take a lower EV shot than the team's highest EV shot), the only true measure of basketball success is NBA championships. Kobe has 5 in 19 seasons and Lebron only has 2 in 12.

Kobe > Lebron

SPrince 10 years, 1 month ago

Only has more rings.
Lebron better in all stats + has 3 more mvp`s.

Most important thing, Kobe without Shaq, Gasol or Phil Jackson = 0 playoffs
Lebron with 4 scrubs = 6/7

Awesome video, have to disagree with James though, i think comment discussions on yours and Sauce`s videos are the nuts.

Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

Lebron's definitely is amazing.

And Ben's comments are also amazing. Honestly, I like writing my comments more than speaking them. Writing provides a clarity that I struggle to find in my videos. The comment editing process is one of my favorite parts of video making. And I think it shows, Runitonce has moved elite comments behind the paywall.

Thanks for watching my videos. I hope you learned something :).

JohnnyMcCash 10 years, 1 month ago

I notice in the first hand (flop 934T) , you have Molswi betting 100% of his gutters/draws etc on the turn giving him almost 2 bluffs to 1 value hand. Do you think he should bet such a huge number of semi-bluffs on the turn? Do you think he should limit it closer to 1:1 or do you think it's fine, given the large number of nasty rivers he can represent?

Secondly, why do you think Molswi isn't value betting K9 or A9 on the turn? Given the huge number of semi bluffs he can bet the turn with, betting K9 or A9 on the turn seems pretty reasonable and good to me.

Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

I have him betting 90% of his gutters and draws on the turn. He definitely could bet K9 or A9 for value and then check back the river. Players definitely do that some % of the time and that could improve my model.

On the ratios, I'd direct you to the value of my A9o on the turn. I get 15% of the turn pot back when he bets, so he's done a great job of making me indifferent between calling and folding one of my strongest bluffcatchers.

In general the ratio of bluffs to value is going to be heavily influenced by our opponents ability to value bet rivers. In this particular example, he is almost entirely clairvoyant to my hand strength, which allows him to bet more bluffs on the turn because he can continue with "too many" value bets on the river.

Dog18 10 years, 1 month ago

I think Check/ Raise with A9 is the best option here on flop vs a lot of players who cbet high frequencies and with merged ranges. Serves as value and protection.

It would be interesting to see how wide villain has to be cbetting for C/R to be better than C/C

Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

Hi ScubaSteve

The flop c/r is great on the flop. We have the best hand 93% of the time against 100% cbet range. Let's assume he folds 50% of the time against my raise. Now we only have the best hand 86% of the time. On a non A,9 turn, he will improve 8% of the time. So we have the best hand 78% of the time on the turn. We barrel for 3/4 pot and he folds 1-A or 42. When he calls the turn we have the best hand 63% of the time. On a non A,9 river, he improves another 8% so now we have the best hand 55% of the time.

If we checkraise the flop against 100% cbet range, we will still have a bluffcatcher on the river.

This makes the flop c/r very marginal at 100bb. Galfond was arguing that these hands should be c/r at shorter stacksizes for value. I agree with him. At 20bb this hand is the nuts. At 100bb we need to proceed more cautiously.

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

fantastic fantastic fantastic. god this title is so boring and like every other title and didn't expect this to be so fantastic. i liked how u went over everything again on the notepad, that was similarly fantastic.
only concern with first hand is you say 'he can only bluff X hi or worse or he's out of line'.... i think this may be true but tough to make decisions on this wit small sample given use of blockers wen bluffing may supersede raw hand strength
on the second hand, when u say guy raises turn with flushes and balance with gs+FD cuz they are the strongest draws on this texture. do u generally use the top of ur folding range that has equity to bluff? Like draws that can't really call cuz have no SD value? i tend to do this and my strong draws, if they have SD value like K hi on this board, i tend to flat them bc they dont gain much from raising, where a hand w/o SD value but with equity gains from raising bc it can now stay in pot and realize its equity

Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

Hi Fbb,

@Blockers I agree with your blocker comment. This board texture is odd because every rank has a straight draw and every 9x is roughly equal strength against a value betting range. I'm not sure what the best blockers would be...

@Raising Yeah, definitely, semibluffing is the way to go :)

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

one other quick question: in ak hand u mention 40% pot each 3 streets (if blankish run out). do you do this when u dont have a lot of bluffs/semibluffs and board is pretty dry?

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

maximizes bluffs? i guess thats true. i was thinking that on river when bet 40%, u can only have a small amt of bluffs anymore. why is this better then t bet flop jam turn for potsized bet ? Do u do the turn jam on more coordinated boards?

Tyler Forrester 10 years, 1 month ago

MOP has a section on betsizing. Geometric lends itself to more bluffs because we can bluff a street than give up the next. This gives us more bluffs for indifference than two big bets. However two big bets on a dynamic board (where our hand might no longer be the best on alot of rivers ) is considered better than the smaller bets.

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