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Sam Grafton

POSTED May 30, 2014

Sam reviews his final table run the 888 Sunday Major, starting with his early game play.

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Ondra Machálek 10 years, 9 months ago

Hey, great video as always Sam!

Just a few thoughts:

4:30 - Leading is kinda cool here and its something Id almost never do, but I think you should be betting a bit bigger on such a drawy board. Overall I think 200bb deep I want to be betting bigger in general to put some pressure on and to build the pot as well. Also I think I would like the lead better if you had a diamond or AQ of spades so you can confidently barel some turns and rivers. Think without a diamond its better to lead KQ and probably check/call AQ, because you dont have as much showdown value and you have a gutter to the nuts.

12:40 - Dont think 3betting the pot is necessary here, though I do follow the logic behind big 3bets oop, I think its just a bit redundant and 750-800 would do the job just as well since his range is so wide and he will just fold a lot. 

22ish - what would you think of check/shoving the river from his perspective? He has some of the worlds most amazing blockers and he´s still fairly uncapped. I have been experimenting with this quite a lot lately and it hasnt worked out for me very well so far (noone folds pairs anymore), but Id like to hear your thoughts :)

29:30 - maybe Im just a bit results oriented but I would shove pre, I think its a bit too face up when a reg flats an UTG raise of a sub-20bb stack here. You also have two 8bb stacks behind you which makes flatting hands like JTs a lot less appealing imo. :)

Overall I really love your vids and have to say you helped my game a lot, so thank you Sam! 


Sam Grafton 10 years, 9 months ago

4.30 - I agree. As i said at the top was very surprised to see myself play the hand this way. Perhaps we differ in that i think it's better to check call with a diamond particularly the Ad as we can continue on more tuns and even craise if we want

12.40 - Probably a small sizing leak. I am experimenting a bit at the moment with different sizings. People are way more sticky than ever before and increasing sizing is a good way of punishing opponents who peel too much.

22ish - My perception is that people never take this line i.e. check every street with a strong hand. As i identify in the video i feel like the best hand he can have when he checks the river is T9. I just have too many show-down hands KQ, KJ, AQ, QQ etc to go for a check-raise. Seems unlikely i'm gonna bet this river with a high frequency so the craise doesnt get any credit. You cant base your river bluffs on blockers alone.

29.30 - Maybe your right. I do have over 20bbs tho and while a reg maybe suspicious I guarantee that when he hits a ten we double through and I see regs get waaay out of line in iso'ing shorties. 

Thanks for the questions and i'm glad your enjoying the vids. This kinda detailed feedback really makes the job worthwhile and serves to my improve my game no end.

Ondra Machálek 10 years, 9 months ago

4:30 - Actually check/calling and with the intention of leading a diamond turn would probably be my standard here. Check/raising is kinda cool too but I would be afraid that he would check back a diamond turn too often and basicly never fold anything on the river if its a brick. It also sucks when you get shoved on and have to fold a nut fd+gutty.

Overall I dont lead in HU pots at all because I find it hard to come up with an at least remotely balanced strategy. I feel like when I try to implement leading to my game I end up with just a super polarized range of the nuts and gutters. It weird because I lead a ton in multiway pots with quite a ballanced range. I guess people just play way differently vs. leads in hu and in multiway pots.

12:30 - To be honest I play lower stakes than you (highest bi I regularly play is €100 on ps.fr) where people dont play as tough, I guess people would run over my small sizings on higher stakes :)

22 - yeah you´re probably right.. my reasoning behind the play is that if I had air, I would also just lead the river, so for my opponent to call a check/shove I would have to be turning a showdown value hand into a bluff.. which I think is something most people arent capable of, which should make it look a lot stronger. But like I said, it hasnt worked out for me well at all. 

29 - thats true, I guess its just a human nature to say that a shove is the best when it comes ace high. :)

Btw today I was eating a pear, and then an image of you saying "power of the pair" popped into my head. I probably watch your vids too much :D

Sam Grafton 10 years, 9 months ago

'Btw today I was eating a pear, and then an image of you saying "power of the pair" popped into my head. I probably watch your vids too much :D'

Incred!!!

Patrick Brooks 10 years, 9 months ago

would like some more thoughts on the QQ spot.. at 29:30 do you have a flatting range from here like suited broadways or isit always just exploitatively AA and KK?? (without the 2 shoving stacks behind) plus if Jacks is probably abit too vulnerable to peel and plays better as a shove/3bet call in this spot isent QQ pretty close aswell? still a massive hero!


Sam Grafton 10 years, 9 months ago

This is a spot that's definitely worth elaborating on. 

I think you can be pretty unbalanced in this spot because you're gonna play differently against a variety of players so that these imbalances sort of level out. Let me try and explain what i mean.

I would pile on two types of player here: a) loose regulars that i have some history with who are i would be piling on with a broad range of hands and will call wide as a result; so someone like Cal will be callin me with 88+, AJ +, KQ i would imagine so i can pile on him and no i'm getting called a decent bit b) tight unknowns and a some tight regs who i suspect are only opening good hands here and so i know will be calling a lot. 

Players we're flatting are the type i identify in the video who we suspect of opening wide but we dont have enough a history that they gonna be calling us wide. I would be flatting the loose regs (such as Cal) with hands like KQ, KJ, AT, JTs etc as an adjustment to their wide opening range and the tight regs with hands like AQs, KQs, QJs 88-JJ. 

These of course are rough ranges and it's not really in my interest to spell out the exact ranges for everyone right now.

My point is tho is that my ranges are unbalanced and exploitative but the hands my opponents see going to show down include a wide variety of strong to middling hands. So in their eyes I look somewhat balanced. In order to exploit my tendencies and imbalances you'd have to firstly know my ranges, but also secondly no my read on the opener and our history. I feel pretty happy that not enough hands go to showdown for anyone to get a large enough sample to start exploiting me.

Hope that makes sense. Let me know if you think it's sophistry and thanks for the question. Really appreciate the engagement.

reshove 10 years, 9 months ago

when bad robot check called AdJo on the river, would u have liked a check raise by him there? seems like a decent spot since its very unlikely you have a flush for checking back turn and he has Ad blocker and also Jack blocker for straights. Nice vid, nice thoughts. keep em coming sir. 

Sam Grafton 10 years, 9 months ago

Hey bro. thanks for the question. Think i replied to similar question above. This is what I put:

My perception is that people never take this line i.e. check every street with a strong hand. As i identify in the video i feel like the best hand he can have when he checks the river is T9. I just have too many show-down hands KQ, KJ, AQ, QQ etc to go for a check-raise. Seems unlikely i'm gonna bet this river with a high frequency so the craise doesnt get any credit. You cant base your river bluffs on blockers alone.

Hope that helps.


reshove 10 years, 9 months ago

It's unlikely someone checks strong hands three times but it's possibly more unlikely someone river check raise bluffs.imo. Idk anyways thx for response 

Matt Heap 10 years, 8 months ago

Hey Sam

Very quick question:

28:30 - AK - What do you do if he jams your C-Bet in this spot?

This happened to me in a live tournament at the weekend and I'm interested to hear your view.


Sam Grafton 10 years, 8 months ago

Hey Matt. Hope you're good! - On this flop against such a loose and wild opponent i would bet call. Against a more solid opponent with a tighter range it's a good spot to go for a delayed c-bet as if you have a hand like AJ/KJ, think they'll fold air or like 22 on turn anyway and this board does connect with defenders range. Specific opponent waaay to out of line tho and of course we crush some draws.

LIve i'm less inclined to call. Not sure how it worked out for you but you have more utility to your stack live, people will call open jams, re-jams incorrectly and are less likely to lift off post. 

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