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3:10 - I kind of like a lead with the K322 on river because Villain is rarely raising here. When you check/call you are hoping for half of the pot. It seems unlikely buck21 has a straight or a strong high hand, and he would probably only raise here with his A2xx low hands, if at all. Having 22 in your hand makes it less likely he has A2. By betting, he may fold out pairs of 6-Ts and you are often getting half the pot anyway when he does call.
Despite i block 223, he will still have a fair amount of A62, A72, A36, A37, A38 type of hands here which scoops me...
Unfortunately he can't have a naked pair 6s-Ts which folds...he either has a some kind of low with that or 2pair. I don't expect him to show up with a hand that hasn't has something else...maybe AKJT...? But i don't think he cbets that on the flop (and he definately bets that on the turn).
I also expect him to checkback the flop with A8KJ, so i can't really figure out a hand that has a better high than me, plays the same way and folds the river, that's why i check-called
Your reasoning for the lead on the river with Q753 the following hand (hoping to fold out better high hands) is similar for me wanting to lead K322 the previous hand.
I agree that's quite similar to the previous hand, but with Q753 i have the 2nd nut low on 26J7A, and with 223K i only have the third nut low on Q87T6.
My opponent will have much more A2 and A3 on Q876T6, then 34 on 26J7A, that's why i think these are slightly different. But i agree that i don't expect to get a fold ever on this river. I can't figure out a hand that he plays the same way, has my high beat and folds...Still because here i have the 2nd nut low and he will have only few 34 combos i can bet more safely here. Even if he has 34xx he needs to have something else with that to scoop me, probably the only hands he plays this way are A34x type of hands, but at the previous hand my opponent can play most of his A27, A26, A37, A38, A28 type of hands the same way
Yeah, I agree with Iteopepe. Really two different situations. His general raising range is going to consist of many more A2 (which sure we have blockers too), but also A3 combos... It's definitely a bit broader on the button but still we have no high equity, and we're repping the low as played when we lead river thus he should be calling with more high's and obviously he will be continuing w/his nutted lows.
As It mentions in the other 35 is just significantly more likely to be the nut low once the ace hits the river based on the same raising range although again we can broaden his range based on positions but still have to assign Ace-Littles with a much higher % than other randoms...
Looking back at the hand from 3:10 I now agree that check-calling is a better play, but I still think it is close against certain opponents who tend to overfold in these spots. Having the 3rd nut-low with 2 blockers to the nut low and 1 blocker to the third nut low vs villain's wide opening range does not put us in that much worse of a spot than having the second nut low (Q753 hand) with 1 nut lo blocker. Villain is also folding a lower percentage of rivers given the range he is repping once we bet in the Q753 hand IMO as well.
I am also curious what you think about having less of a mixed strategy bvb in LO8. When you limp your stronger hands, are you re-raising if the BB raises? (I feel as the BB vs a SB limper we should be raising maybe the top 25-40% of our hands given the importance of position in this spot). I personally would prefer to raise a higher frequency of medium strength hands like Q753 1suit in the SB mostly because you can define your opponents range much better once you get 3!. When our opponent just calls us as the potential equity favorite, we really aren't giving up that much value as well. I feel the equity we lose by raising as opposed to limp-calling does not outweigh our ability to play postflop more profitably as the initial raiser.
I don't usually limp my stronger hands, therefore i don't have a limp-raise strategy from the SB. However i certainly did that, when i played against somebody, who raised like ~60% from BB against SB limp, then i limped my whole range and definately limp-raised my stronger hands.
But normally my strategy is simple and because it's limit o8 i don't think we need to have strong hands in our limp-call range. If my opponent is overfolding his BB, then i raise my whole range from SB. But if my opponent is a good player then i raise my stronger hands and limp with my weaker hands which are still worth to play (hands that are mostly 1way hands, like 235Jss, TJQK).
really like this series! keep it up!
Hi, can i kindly ask for advice how you recommend study NLHE with 40bb CAP like it is on stars? I do not have pio yet. Is there any videos available? Do you know about any printable default ranges etc.? Thanks
Unfortunately i can't help you with that...I wasn't focused all on NLHE when stars had 8game action, since it's only in the live mix, and i prefer to study the games which are more beneficial for live games as well (mostly split pot games). And in the last year action was almost completely dead on Stars, so i don't really play NLHE at all..
Great video! Enjoyed the format & really looking forward to some more of your mixed cash game videos like this:)
Thanks a lot!
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