If I'm right about my assumptions, the river check has to be a bigger mistake. Human called with a bluffcatcher that wasn't horrible, in a spot where I think villain probably has sufficient bluffs. He is pretty likely around 0ev from my point of view.

I'm interested by the over bet shove by Flying on the river. Seems to be value heavy over bet shoving into an uncapped range. Fair enough if he blocks the Ah then he caps his opponent but will only have AhJo and mabye AhTo but i don't think AT will lead the flop and Human still has alot of flushes in his range Khxh etc. Do you agree with Flyings sizing into an uncapped range? And do you think Human could of used this as a read to fold?

ItsPokaBruv completely agree. I think this line is extremely under-bluffed, and even if it wasn't, does he even have enough combos in his pre-flop flatting range to bluff this line with?? I doubt it. AJo will be mixing between flat and 3 bet pre-flop, i'd say around 50% of the time for each, but he may lean towards flatting this hand 100% of the time because the weakest player is in the bb so he wants to let him in to the pot as well.

as you say, ATo is never gonna lead the flop unless you are some kind of sick GTO bot who wants to have enough bluffs when the turn brings a heart and the river reduces your bluffing combo's even further by giving you a pair and thus decreasing your bluffing combos by 25%, which will not allow you to have a sufficient number of bluffs to get called by bluff-catchers, or even 2nd nut flushes. but obviously this is not the case, because he is a legit reg and regs do not lead 2nd pair 3 ways in to 2 pretty un-capped ranges which both contain a ton of top pairs, some over-pairs as well as some set's and 2 pairs.

so clearly you want to be a little more polarized with your leading range, hands that can't really x call call or x raise but have decent blockers that interact with the flop fairly well as well as can on future streets. you can also mix in some hands like 44 in to this range as well, because sb doesn't want to do a ton of x raising here because:

1-betting ranges are going to be very tight because the pot is 3 ways
2-sb has hardly any nut combos-44 and a little KTs and that's probably it
3-sb has many middle strength hands, so we would have to heavily mix between bet and x with our sets and 2 pairs otherwise our x calling range is going to be extremely weak
4-we have some hands that want to get value on the flop so that it doesn't go xxx but aren't strong enough to x raise, for example a hand like KQ and then we have our draws like flush draws, straight draws etc which don't really wanna x raise either because they would prefer to lead in to a 50% bb calling range and a 45% btn opening range as opposed to a tight c betting range from the button as well as the occasional bb leading range which is also going to be very condensed towards value hands as well as large combo draws.

so I like the sb lead, sometimes though not always. because lets say we always lead AhJx and never x call with it, then when the turn comes a heart and the river comes a brick then we can never have any Ahx bluffs to either OB jam with or x jam with, so villain could exploitably bet/fold all of his flushes if we were only bluffing with our nut blocker or the nut flush (because we have 0 bluffing combos in our x call range.)

so clearly you need to mix these hands in to both a donking range, a x calling range and also a x raising range. although the x raising range would be my lowest frequency play and I would hardly have one on this board, for the reasons I mentioned.

now let's do some math-if villain has 3 combos of AhJx (although this is going to be mixed both pre and post-flop) IP needs 38% equity to call, so we can't have more than 5 value combos otherwise we are under-bluffing. so there A2hh, A3hh, A5hh, A6hh, A7hh and then A9hh. OOP will not have AJhh/AQhh/AKhh in his pre-flop range, because the bb isn't so bad as to start flatting close to 100% of your continuing range, he's actually not much worse than most of the regs. so that's 6 combinations, and you can see that 0human want's to actually have one of these side cards instead of the Kh. Kx7h< will not open pre-flop, so in terms of bluff-catchers that are not flushes then I have to give him immense credit because imo this is the nut bluff-catcher and maybe he identified that he doesn't have any weaker KxXh combos in his range by the river.

so if Flying has his 3 bluffing combos (AhJx) and then 5 value combos (A2s,A3s,A5s,A6s,A7s) then this call will be break even. and both of us were actually wrong. however, that is if he ALWAYS bluffs this hand, he is always going to be jamming on the river if he has the nuts, but he will not always be jamming river with his bluffs because people randomize for bluffs on various streets, and especially on the river so it is pretty much best case scenario that he has sufficient bluffs.

so i'd still fold, and wait for a hand like K7hh, just to make sure we are calling sometimes and maybe once in a blue moon he ends up over-valuing his hand and jamming a Q high flush. and then our nut bluff-catching hands would be 76hh or 65hh, which reduce his value combo's further and would lead him to be over-bluffing is he always bluffed his AJ combinations.

tbh I don't even think we need to continue Humans hand ott, he lead 3 ways and then over-bet the turn, we get to continue fairly tight on the flop and very tight ott, so i'd continue with flushes and sets and then just call my flushes with good blockers every so often otr. this spot comes up so infrequently, so even if we are folding 80% of the time on the river it would not be a problem and you would not be getting exploited.

Maybe Human didn't see the hand where Flying Smile checked back T 9 because he was playing too many tables? Based on that hand I would be turbo folding the King 9 on the turn vs. flying smile. I don't think that he's ever bluffing in that spot, at least not the way he was playing on that day.

It really seems like this game plays super tight. Very cool to see some of the hands that were folded, like 4h 5h preflop to a small 3 bet. I get value just watching how these games are playing and then with your analysis and watching your play Kevin, I like this series quite a bit.

Basically we're trying to exercise a range advantage in one of two ways. The first is by betting very often, because villain's range overall can't deal the aggression and usually ends up overfolding. The second is by using a very large size, which takes advantage of a range where extremely strong hands hands (sets, AJ+) are relatively common. Both seem to work fairly well on AK8, but there are some boards where only one of the two (or neither) is appropriate.

The medium freq / medium bet approach is not really suitable for a situation where we have range advantage.

This range looks fine, I was aiming to play a bit tighter in game and I think AQ starts to mix pretty soon as we narrow from here.

tbf there is also practically 0 high stakes of 25/50+ 6 max just now, and I and quite a few others requested these 6 max videos so I think he was trying out something a bit different and because there was a demand for this content. he has probably 100 HU video's and i'm sure he will go back to that format but this was requested and was very enjoyable imo. personally i'd like him to do a mix of both in the future but of course that is entirely up to him so i'll watch whatever i'm given xD

Mostly I meant we can barrel any turn - we either pick up equity or have a high frequency barrel spot on this board. Some rivers will make sense as well.

I like the minraise in these no-ante games, but 2.5x is hardly going to be bad...it probably makes a very minor difference. I could be wrong about the fold vs 3bet here, definitely close, but I decided to err towards fold in a close spot since the sizing was larger than I'm used to.

good point! I missed that one. that makes a lot of sense, his call might be good then. I still feel like you don't need to call so wide in this spot due to the fact the pot was multi way and the spr was so high on the flop. probably is a good lower frequency call down, however.

actually, on second glance not sure if I agree. I think that Q high flushes wouldn't want to be 2x pot jamming on the river, probably bet maximum of pot. so the QJ combo's could go in a smaller sizing, but that the larger all in sizing should be nuts/air ONLY. so of course either have Ahx or the A high flush.

because if we start 2x pot jamming Q9hh on the river then it's fairly easy for IP to have both A and K high flushes. that would amount to around 13 combinations if I can count correctly. when you are jamming as an overbet you don't want to lose to 13 combinations of hands when ranges are already so incredibly narrow by the river.