Since you asked for feedback,
I'm not really a big fan of the in-depth ICM talk, but I am admittedly biased because I play 99% cash games. I think there could be great value in you isolating variables and exploring how strategy changes in monker...again I'm biased because its what I want to do on my own but I'd like to pick up methodology ideas from you.
For example, you could keep texture and ranges constant then solve it at a few different stack-to-pot ratios. Then look at identical hand classes in each sim that take different strategies and we could conclude that the difference in strategy is due to the spr difference. Alternatively, you could keep the hand class and spr constant and slightly change the texture and we could make conclusions based on subtle texture differences. I know this request is basically step 1A of what you should do once you have monker...but to do it requires some good quality sims and some setup expertise, etc, etc, so I think we'd all get value from your browsing.
sounds like you already have some pretty solid methodological ideas of your own :), but yeah I agree this could be valuable, there are a couple of small potential correlation/causation issues with this approach but you can prob get a sense for those with enough time in the Monker lab.
Your content is superb, your commentary is insightful and succinct. I also almost exclusively play cash games so I would prefer 90% of your content to revolve around cash games but the occasional MTT vid especially with a Monker element is a great addition imo and this series has been excellent.
careful, I'll start to get an out of control ego and do things like refer to myself in the third person - fortunately I'm pretty sure Richard will keep a cool head and never do such things...:p
Since you asked for questions: what's your methodology to get the best grasp which hands monker uses to do X. E.g. a spot we open ep and get cslled and are supposed to cbet 20%. Then I usually filter for dif. handgroups and look what cbets most. Often it turns out thouhj that the 'high cbet candidates' actually cbet in the region of 30% ergo solver cbets little on the board and he highly mixes cbetting hands. If I recall correctly I did a sim fpr 832s and the hands most bluffed with where gs and the occ 55/44xx but again for a surprising little amoubt of the time, like 20-30 %. So if you have a good plan for memorizing/get a grasp for strategies that are veyry mixed or jou just want to share your approach for those spots tjat would be valueable to me
oddly enough i was on the site and notification flashed up literally as you clicked post - i wrote notes for a reply but looking through them im actually thinking id rather use this question as a starting point for a video.
Ok you probably already noticed the angry crowd waving ‘where are the sims ?’ Signs lately, let’s hope that this was a unfortunate exemption and won’t repeat again! ... but ok in all seriousness, I think that this video didn’t unfold its full potential on the very interesting topics you brought up. You probably had to keep the length of video in mind but it would have been nice to discuss the types of hands we want to limp with. You briefly touched on that in the last video (no rainbow hands), but in case we still maintain a raising range it would be interesting to see where we draw the line. Instinctively many of the 20-40% hands should work fine as limps, like JTT7ss , KQJ8ss , AT95ds, KJ55ds ... whereas I personally would prefer folding the 7763ds from the video since we are still easily dominated by a random hand from the blinds, don’t have many good (semi)bluffing opportunities and low implied odds when hitting strong.
2nd point, ok AAxx is probably always profitable to 3b even on the bubble, but what about AKK, KKds , AQQxds ,AKQJ ? Like does it make sense to nit through the bubble phase if we really care to get ITM? What is the chip EV loss compared to the dollar EV / Risk of busting?
Questions over questions, maybe you can try to give your thoughts here in the comments since you probably won’t talk about MTTs for a while?
yeah all fair points, im actually doing quite a bit of pre-WSOP work on mtt stuff including limping strat but am conflicted on future videos bc whilst I agree with the line of thought which says that the format itself is kinda flawed I also find PLO mtts pretty interesting because they occur in such a dynamic environment - however I guess I also have to bias content towards what RIO subscribers prefer and at the moment sentiment seems to be overwhelmingly in favour of cash games.
Re your second point, ok so the thing is its one of those where the short answer is "it depends" and the long answer is, well, really long. i think important factors are stack size and distributions (we can start to have a flatting range beyond a certain point, extreme short stacks dictate extreme adjustments, if some guy had 1bb im almost def meant to not even look at my hand vs an open), size of mincash, nature of payouts (ie id gamble more on party than stars given party is way more top heavy and mincash is smaller). assuming all those are kinda neutral for ev of ur options, I think we figure out our strategy by reasoning backwards
-we cant flat pf = postflop eq realisation with capped range vs guy who covers us is gonna be truly nightmarish
-our only 3b/c hand is AA = hands we could call vs 4b we arent 3betting
-given our only 3b/c hand is AA, our 3b range cant be wider than x% (would have to calc x) otherwise the opener can just start piling on us
-fill up x% with AA and then add the best other candidates (ie, all those you mention) linearly until we max out
Super interesting to be re-watching this when I am: Brushing up for the WSOP $25k PLO day 3 which is all ITM (brag) and played with Omaha4rollz near the bubble and will be playing with him tomorrow.
When we have a middling stack in a heavy ICM spot, is it OK to adopt a Limp/Fold strategy pre-flop in all positions for all of our hands we are going to play ? That way we can keep the pot smaller and get into positions where we have very large equity on the flop.
ie, no RFIs? you probably want to skew towards passivity when EVs of raise/limp run close together, and start to make larger adjustments as the ICM pressure is distributed unequally between you and your likely opponents (ie, they can exert more pressure on you than you on them), but playing zero RFI is likely an over adjustment, if I'm sufficiently screwed by ICM that I want to play pure limp with my VPIPs, I probably want to VPIP close to never in the first place. That said, I do think you should be playing a lot of limps in a lot of mid/late stage MTT situations, I just think opening is a sufficiently powerful weapon that you dont want to forego it altogether.
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Since you asked for feedback,
I'm not really a big fan of the in-depth ICM talk, but I am admittedly biased because I play 99% cash games. I think there could be great value in you isolating variables and exploring how strategy changes in monker...again I'm biased because its what I want to do on my own but I'd like to pick up methodology ideas from you.
For example, you could keep texture and ranges constant then solve it at a few different stack-to-pot ratios. Then look at identical hand classes in each sim that take different strategies and we could conclude that the difference in strategy is due to the spr difference. Alternatively, you could keep the hand class and spr constant and slightly change the texture and we could make conclusions based on subtle texture differences. I know this request is basically step 1A of what you should do once you have monker...but to do it requires some good quality sims and some setup expertise, etc, etc, so I think we'd all get value from your browsing.
sounds like you already have some pretty solid methodological ideas of your own :), but yeah I agree this could be valuable, there are a couple of small potential correlation/causation issues with this approach but you can prob get a sense for those with enough time in the Monker lab.
yea I was unsure of exactly what you mentioned, that other factors that I might not consider could throw off the correlation
Your content is superb, your commentary is insightful and succinct. I also almost exclusively play cash games so I would prefer 90% of your content to revolve around cash games but the occasional MTT vid especially with a Monker element is a great addition imo and this series has been excellent.
wow, im blushing :p, seriously though thanks for this, really nice to hear.
Richard! Richard! Richard! Richard! (for president)
careful, I'll start to get an out of control ego and do things like refer to myself in the third person - fortunately I'm pretty sure Richard will keep a cool head and never do such things...:p
Great series,I don't play MTT's but I learned a lot!
Since you asked for questions: what's your methodology to get the best grasp which hands monker uses to do X. E.g. a spot we open ep and get cslled and are supposed to cbet 20%. Then I usually filter for dif. handgroups and look what cbets most. Often it turns out thouhj that the 'high cbet candidates' actually cbet in the region of 30% ergo solver cbets little on the board and he highly mixes cbetting hands. If I recall correctly I did a sim fpr 832s and the hands most bluffed with where gs and the occ 55/44xx but again for a surprising little amoubt of the time, like 20-30 %. So if you have a good plan for memorizing/get a grasp for strategies that are veyry mixed or jou just want to share your approach for those spots tjat would be valueable to me
oddly enough i was on the site and notification flashed up literally as you clicked post - i wrote notes for a reply but looking through them im actually thinking id rather use this question as a starting point for a video.
Ok you probably already noticed the angry crowd waving ‘where are the sims ?’ Signs lately, let’s hope that this was a unfortunate exemption and won’t repeat again! ... but ok in all seriousness, I think that this video didn’t unfold its full potential on the very interesting topics you brought up. You probably had to keep the length of video in mind but it would have been nice to discuss the types of hands we want to limp with. You briefly touched on that in the last video (no rainbow hands), but in case we still maintain a raising range it would be interesting to see where we draw the line. Instinctively many of the 20-40% hands should work fine as limps, like JTT7ss , KQJ8ss , AT95ds, KJ55ds ... whereas I personally would prefer folding the 7763ds from the video since we are still easily dominated by a random hand from the blinds, don’t have many good (semi)bluffing opportunities and low implied odds when hitting strong.
2nd point, ok AAxx is probably always profitable to 3b even on the bubble, but what about AKK, KKds , AQQxds ,AKQJ ? Like does it make sense to nit through the bubble phase if we really care to get ITM? What is the chip EV loss compared to the dollar EV / Risk of busting?
Questions over questions, maybe you can try to give your thoughts here in the comments since you probably won’t talk about MTTs for a while?
Cheers!
yeah all fair points, im actually doing quite a bit of pre-WSOP work on mtt stuff including limping strat but am conflicted on future videos bc whilst I agree with the line of thought which says that the format itself is kinda flawed I also find PLO mtts pretty interesting because they occur in such a dynamic environment - however I guess I also have to bias content towards what RIO subscribers prefer and at the moment sentiment seems to be overwhelmingly in favour of cash games.
Re your second point, ok so the thing is its one of those where the short answer is "it depends" and the long answer is, well, really long. i think important factors are stack size and distributions (we can start to have a flatting range beyond a certain point, extreme short stacks dictate extreme adjustments, if some guy had 1bb im almost def meant to not even look at my hand vs an open), size of mincash, nature of payouts (ie id gamble more on party than stars given party is way more top heavy and mincash is smaller). assuming all those are kinda neutral for ev of ur options, I think we figure out our strategy by reasoning backwards
-we cant flat pf = postflop eq realisation with capped range vs guy who covers us is gonna be truly nightmarish
-our only 3b/c hand is AA = hands we could call vs 4b we arent 3betting
-given our only 3b/c hand is AA, our 3b range cant be wider than x% (would have to calc x) otherwise the opener can just start piling on us
-fill up x% with AA and then add the best other candidates (ie, all those you mention) linearly until we max out
You're the man, straight up
would love more mtt content
This was a fantastic series, would also love more PLO MTT content as I find it extremely interesting and am starting to get into more tournaments
Glad I'm not alone in enjoying the format :)
Super interesting to be re-watching this when I am: Brushing up for the WSOP $25k PLO day 3 which is all ITM (brag) and played with Omaha4rollz near the bubble and will be playing with him tomorrow.
Hey, nice meeting you, hope it goes well.
When we have a middling stack in a heavy ICM spot, is it OK to adopt a Limp/Fold strategy pre-flop in all positions for all of our hands we are going to play ? That way we can keep the pot smaller and get into positions where we have very large equity on the flop.
ie, no RFIs? you probably want to skew towards passivity when EVs of raise/limp run close together, and start to make larger adjustments as the ICM pressure is distributed unequally between you and your likely opponents (ie, they can exert more pressure on you than you on them), but playing zero RFI is likely an over adjustment, if I'm sufficiently screwed by ICM that I want to play pure limp with my VPIPs, I probably want to VPIP close to never in the first place. That said, I do think you should be playing a lot of limps in a lot of mid/late stage MTT situations, I just think opening is a sufficiently powerful weapon that you dont want to forego it altogether.
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