Hey Kevin good video. I'm interested about your IP cbetting strategy. Do you use small size cbet at a high frequency on almost any texture and then split the range on the turn or do you just use this small sizing on the flop on specially rainbow or dry textures?
Thanks Nuno. I believe more detail on my cbet strategy will come with the next several videos, as this was the first one where I was implementing it. Generally speaking, I'm using a single turn size for each turn situation, but I'm sure this will change in time as well. I'm moving towards more sizes gradually.
I love your videos man. I was hoping you could elaborate a little more on why larger 3bet sizings are proving to be better. I find it very confusing. Thanks for the content!
I appreciate that, thanks. As of now, it's because of the results of some simulations I've done. I'm still working on it, but I suspect that (when countered appropriately) there is a very large spectrum of acceptable 3bet sizes. This is on the upper end of acceptable, and I think I'm happy with the way it's working in today's games (exploitatively).
hey kevin 2.09 min, how is 77 a fine call when he blocks our bluffs, or do we always c/r 79 on flop, also the fact that he has dimond blocker cant be great?
11:20 you say with no back door potential or showdown value you tend to check the flop with those types of flushdraws, so lets say the bord is the same 8c 10d 6c, and we have 23cc do we check this flop, im struggling to get my head around that, because im coming from the belief we cbet f/d for fold equity, so to only bet when we have showdown (igonre the back door potential for a second) that statement seems counter intuitive.... also does this theory apply for 6max?
2:09 - I don't think we can put so much weight on requiring 7x in a bluff hand. I called a .5pot cbet, which means I'm going to have far more unpaired hands than simply 79 in my range. In addition, 77 removes some key value hands that will use this large river sizing (75, K7). I think any negative blocker effects will be offset by this.
11:20 - This is a larger discussion on building ranges, but I don't think it's a good mentality to think about fold equity (of a strictly better hand) as the "purpose" of every bet with air. There are so many variables to consider, mostly with regards to how future streets will play within all of our interdependent ranges. I think it's clear that with a large SPR, we need some fds in every different range that gets to the river.
Some considerations - fds tend to be hands that give up the river unimproved, so it might not be ideal for all of those fds to have no showdown value. Also consider the case where we get x/r on either flop or turn - which fd will perform best against this line? If we check back the flop, and face two streets of aggression, we always fold river with missed flush draws. Would we prefer that they are A high (potentially getting bluffed) or 4 high (never getting bluffed)?
11:35 K4s how thin would you vbet river here for this sizing?
27:15 66 since he bet 3rd pair otf would you fold your underpairs in this spot in the future?
11:35 - Probably J6 I'd guess
27:15 - No, I think his sizing is too small to fold underpairs. Comparing possible hands to call, it's more useful having 2 outs to a nut hadn against nearly his whole value range than having something like Q7 high with 3 outs to a weak sd hand vs part of his range.
great video.
at 8min when bluff turn qt and give up riv on 982A8, if he lead good aces or c/r them, then he is pretty weak when c/c so why is it just good 1 street bluff rather than 2?
Also, at 8:30, you say u targetting 5x/8x on 99358 wit j9, so if thats case , why not size bigger cuz u repping 9x+?
8 - He's relatively weak on different river cards, but when the 8 pairs it makes some of his weakest hands into trips and I'd need him to fold stuff like 9x on a blank to have a good bluff. I think I got a bit lost in my explanation in the video, but I meant to imply that he's pretty weak when checking the turn up until he decides to put money in, at which point he's going to have mostly strong bluffcatchers.
8:30 - You're right, I think 150% pot would've been a better choice here. I will sometimes want to vbet hands like K5/86 for this sizing but it's unimportant to think about that vs him.
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Hey Kevin good video. I'm interested about your IP cbetting strategy. Do you use small size cbet at a high frequency on almost any texture and then split the range on the turn or do you just use this small sizing on the flop on specially rainbow or dry textures?
Thanks!
Thanks Nuno. I believe more detail on my cbet strategy will come with the next several videos, as this was the first one where I was implementing it. Generally speaking, I'm using a single turn size for each turn situation, but I'm sure this will change in time as well. I'm moving towards more sizes gradually.
I love your videos man. I was hoping you could elaborate a little more on why larger 3bet sizings are proving to be better. I find it very confusing. Thanks for the content!
I appreciate that, thanks. As of now, it's because of the results of some simulations I've done. I'm still working on it, but I suspect that (when countered appropriately) there is a very large spectrum of acceptable 3bet sizes. This is on the upper end of acceptable, and I think I'm happy with the way it's working in today's games (exploitatively).
hey kevin 2.09 min, how is 77 a fine call when he blocks our bluffs, or do we always c/r 79 on flop, also the fact that he has dimond blocker cant be great?
11:20 you say with no back door potential or showdown value you tend to check the flop with those types of flushdraws, so lets say the bord is the same 8c 10d 6c, and we have 23cc do we check this flop, im struggling to get my head around that, because im coming from the belief we cbet f/d for fold equity, so to only bet when we have showdown (igonre the back door potential for a second) that statement seems counter intuitive.... also does this theory apply for 6max?
cheers
2:09 - I don't think we can put so much weight on requiring 7x in a bluff hand. I called a .5pot cbet, which means I'm going to have far more unpaired hands than simply 79 in my range. In addition, 77 removes some key value hands that will use this large river sizing (75, K7). I think any negative blocker effects will be offset by this.
11:20 - This is a larger discussion on building ranges, but I don't think it's a good mentality to think about fold equity (of a strictly better hand) as the "purpose" of every bet with air. There are so many variables to consider, mostly with regards to how future streets will play within all of our interdependent ranges. I think it's clear that with a large SPR, we need some fds in every different range that gets to the river.
Some considerations - fds tend to be hands that give up the river unimproved, so it might not be ideal for all of those fds to have no showdown value. Also consider the case where we get x/r on either flop or turn - which fd will perform best against this line? If we check back the flop, and face two streets of aggression, we always fold river with missed flush draws. Would we prefer that they are A high (potentially getting bluffed) or 4 high (never getting bluffed)?
ugh really wanted to fold AQ.
11:35 K4s how thin would you vbet river here for this sizing?
27:15 66 since he bet 3rd pair otf would you fold your underpairs in this spot in the future?
11:35 - Probably J6 I'd guess
27:15 - No, I think his sizing is too small to fold underpairs. Comparing possible hands to call, it's more useful having 2 outs to a nut hadn against nearly his whole value range than having something like Q7 high with 3 outs to a weak sd hand vs part of his range.
great video.
at 8min when bluff turn qt and give up riv on 982A8, if he lead good aces or c/r them, then he is pretty weak when c/c so why is it just good 1 street bluff rather than 2?
Also, at 8:30, you say u targetting 5x/8x on 99358 wit j9, so if thats case , why not size bigger cuz u repping 9x+?
8 - He's relatively weak on different river cards, but when the 8 pairs it makes some of his weakest hands into trips and I'd need him to fold stuff like 9x on a blank to have a good bluff. I think I got a bit lost in my explanation in the video, but I meant to imply that he's pretty weak when checking the turn up until he decides to put money in, at which point he's going to have mostly strong bluffcatchers.
8:30 - You're right, I think 150% pot would've been a better choice here. I will sometimes want to vbet hands like K5/86 for this sizing but it's unimportant to think about that vs him.
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