$5/$10 6-Max Zoom Session and CREV Review
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Nice video <3
Hey Juan, thanks a lot for the video. I left a comment in the other 500z video you made if you don't mind checking :) Watching this one asap!
min22-ATo: what kind of hands expect you to fold vs ur river bluff...? dont see many better hands he will fold with the line he tooks
nice vid tho:)
Hey krosse-hosse,
As i said on the video, i don´t like my bluff with this hand. Or at least does not like me for this standard size. If im going to turn this hand into a bluff i should go for the overbetting side.
min 34:40: don't you think that the big part of oppo's range is 77-QQ + 2 combos of 67s, and so we are kind of autovaluebetting us even if he calls with 6x, 55 or AQ?
Hey gruz,
I think its a mistake give him the same frecquency for hands like 77-QQ than 55, since its very possible that he will be valuebeting turn with those 77+, at least a considerable amount of time. Betting small it allows me to protect my range, charge some parts of his range that he would never call for a standard size as 44/55/A2s/A3s/6x/Ahigh and it also helps me as a blocking bet for the times that he has one of those hands that you did mention. And i could perfectly bluff some very weak flop floats for that size.
Hey Juan,
can you elaborate a little more on the A8o fold at min ~9 BvB ?
It feels like the 8 as a kicker is quite high, as we 3b most good aces and have alot qorse kickers below the 8 in that spot without a pair).
I'm not sure how wide your calling range BBvsSB is, but assuming we defend by just calling 40% preflop and defend
TP+, any pair, FDs, BDFD (basically anything with a J/Q/K/A) , GS, Str8 Draws, AJ-A9
and fold: A3s/A4s/A5s/A8s (without BDFD),K8o-KQo, A3o-A5o and some other offsuited stuff
we end up defending ~60% (i quickly plugged in the numbers in CREV, might have made little mistakes, but overall the defending freq. should hover around 60%)
but given the fact that villain is still able to see the turn most of the time after his bet and realize a little more of his equity, we probably have to defend a little more than 60%, which means that we have to call almost all Ax cuz of the highcard value here?!
Or am I making some wrong assumptions?
It will of course somewhat depend on villains cbet strategy, and i'm not sure if we can simply use the min.defending freq. formula in this particular spot.
Thought it was quite interesting and i'm looking forward to an answer :)
I agree, I think the fold is too tight. I don't like the argument for superior playability for a hand like QsTs because you have a 3 straight.
QsTs is looking for a spade, T, Q which is 15 cards. A8o is looking for A,8,9,5 which is 14 cards. flushes are better than straights of course, but A8 has a lot more showdown value than QT when villain starts checking. you are also likely to show the hand down cheaply on a 7 or 6 turn.
I think both hands have to be good enough for either a call or a raise on the flop.
my rankings for hands to continue with in this spot:
A8o > QsTs > ATo
P.S. great video again!
Hey guys, its an intresting decision i think too. I will expose my arguments to fold this hand a little more in detail.
First of all, i wont say how exactly my preflop range is for ovbious reasons, but i would defend a little bit looser than 40%, i think that ~55% is more accurate. Most of good players are vpiping ~75% on this spot, and 3betting 15-20%.
About the flop decision, this is a snap call that i was doing a few months ago, but now i have my doubts about if i need to defend any single A high here.
I disagree that we have to defend more than 60% here. You have to remember the concept of indifferences, what you are trying to do when opponent cbets the flop is making him indifferent between betting and checking, and since when he checks he is making some money, we should defend a little LESS than 2/3. I would say that something between 55-60% its more accurate.
Now if im going to suppose that i would never raise this board, A8o (no bdfd) it falls into the lattest hand and smallest ev hands that i could defend on this board to get to that 55% frecq. But its not true that im never raising this flop, so now since i have a raising range, i can start to switch defenses by herofolding some Ax withouth bdfd, and raising some other hands that i would be folding (J5ss for example). Thats why i dont feel A8o its so high in my range as you expose.
Very good video, keep up the good job ! :)
First of all very nice video Juan, i think i get some good things from it, here is one of my doubts, how do u balance your flop cbetting size with A5s in AT8s (3b pot)?, or it is just an explotative play that u dont want to balance?, if u balance that play betting this size with some of the strongest part of your range i think you are losing to much value against his draws or other kind o lf hands, isnt it? sorry if my english is not very well ��
You could play some different hand categories for that way. Some flush draws for example that have enough showdown value to xCall the turn with. Or even some strong value hands that are blocking all of his stronger flop calls and need to make small bets to stretch his flop continuing range.
On the Q7o hand, wouldn't you like/consider betting smething like 1/4 1/5 pot for 3betting river? Or even smaller, just trying to get raised by all his flushes, but he could also pick up some bluffs to raise with which would be nice, but we may loose value from hands that would call a std size on river, wht do you think about this play? Very good video btw :)
Hey,
Could you specify the timeline please ?
22:00
I think that its very important to exctract as much value as we can from his flushes, and since all of those hands will call to any size, i would be loosing ton of value by betting smaller.
great vid! in that hand on Qh7h2dJh7s, what bluffs do you have there? hands like 98dd and Th9x? And you have various bet sizes on this river I guess? seems like you will have smallish flushes that won't want to bet this big
Hi Juan, Great video as usual. Enjoyed it. Thanks
Question:
18:20 A3s. Do you not thinking checking this hand to protect your checking range is also a good utility of our specific holding?
CREV hand. your analysis is based on the fact that whenever villain checks the turn he folds river 100% of the time; however good vilains should always have some % to be able to defend vs your river shove no?
Hey pacmang,
A3s i think that both options are fine. It depends on how you want to construct your ranges. I could be check/calling some Ax, and betting small other % since both options have close ev. I think that this smalls bets allows you to protect some marginal parts of your range with weak playability.
About the crev hand i think its a very explotative hand played by villain raising on this board, and im trying to exploit him by that with my assumptions. But even with villain calling the river sometimes when i don´t hit flop call steel +ev.
24:24, with the Q7o. You say that villain has fewer flushes if the flush-card that hits is a higher one. And that there are more flushes in his range if the 2 and Q were to change color with each other. Is that because of the fact that if he was holding 2x with a flush draw he would be more inclined to check than to bet, hence giving him fewer flushdraws in his betting range when the Q is heart? Or how do you mean?
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